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diakoneo |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | What was the reason Japanese-Americans were put in camps during WWII?
Since that was the greatest generation - but Dave says it is illegal - what loophole did they find that had Roosevelt put them in camps?
It seems Trump is asking for a small thing in comparison - that those Muslim Americans that travel overseas to radical countries - such as the recent murderers - be scrutinized before coming back to the U.S.
Also, can you alert the mods that someone is calling other posters fascists.
That seems over the top imho.
Also, if my family was shot by a Muslim idiot -all in the name of Allah - I would have a harsher opinion than others. |
What would bar someone in the future from putting Christians in to interment camps? Some leader could find reason to say we are dangerous.
Do we believe in the power of the Gospel?
The power of the Holy Spirit?
Terrorism by it's nature is all about fear. But Jesus said, "fear not the one who can destroy the body, but fear the one who can destroy body and soul"
There are as many as 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Most are Muslim because they were born into a Muslim family and that is all they have ever known and yet Christ died for them as He died for us who were born in a Christian home where that is all we have ever heard or known.
The Muslim religion is a wicked demonic faith. It is messed up. But the Muslim people are not without hope. |
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[quote="Dave Dorsey"] | Nature Boy Florida wrote: | What was the reason Japanese-Americans were put in camps during WWII?
If you're concerned about my choice of language, appeal to Doyle. I will gladly accept banishment from this forum in order to call out those who would undermine my liberty by advocating the abolition of the Bill of Rights and the rule of law. |
IT doesn't bother me. Most people who call others names just dont have much of an education. So call me what you want. I always get a good laugh at this type of communication.
As far as your assertion that I am "advocating the abolition of the Bill of Rights" your about as far in left field as your politics. |
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| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | As far as your assertion that I am "advocating the abolition of the Bill of Rights" your about as far in left field as your politics. |
No one in history who traded their liberty for safety and security thought that's what they were doing at the time. To them, they were just advocating common sense restrictions on the rights of others. They were very surprised when they found they had in fact given up their own.
I am very comfortable leaving it to the viewers of this thread to decide which of the two of us is educated and knowledgeable about history -- and which of the two of us is doomed to repeat it. |
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| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Nature Boy Florida wrote: | What was the reason Japanese-Americans were put in camps during WWII?
Since that was the greatest generation - but Dave says it is illegal - what loophole did they find that had Roosevelt put them in camps? |
LOL. There is no serious person in the US today who doesn't know the internment of Japanese Americans was both unnecessary and illegal. Roosevelt used the same loophole people are advocating in this thread -- not giving a single tiny hoot about the United States Constitution and the rule of law. The young soldiers who fought were indeed the Greatest Generation, but FDR was one of that time's worst.
If you're concerned about my choice of language, appeal to Doyle. I will gladly accept banishment from this forum in order to call out those who would undermine my liberty by advocating the abolition of the Bill of Rights and the rule of law. |
Guess you couldn't answer.
What was the loophole they used?
We think of ourselves as a lot holier now - and we look back and say we wouldn't do such things - but they had a reason - and as a whole lived more devout lives than our current generation - and had no trouble getting done what they thought was right.
Thus, folks will have no trouble getting done what they thing is right today - the Constitution is only what 9 justices say it is. How else could we get abortion on demand... and Presidential override of laws on the books - only enforcing what he feels like enforcing.
When it gets as dangerous here as in Israel - scrutiny will change...with our current constitution.
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| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | What was the loophole they used? |
I did answer. The loophole was that they just didn't care. The unequivocal language of Article I, Section 9 is that the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, and the unequivocal language of the Fifth Amendment is that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law. There are no loopholes to either of those, except to a government that simply does not care about them.
What loophole did President Obama's administration use to accomplish any of the unconstitutional things they have done, NBF? Or are they all automatically constitutional on the basis that they happened?
The specific answer to your question is that they cited the exception to habeas corpus ("unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it") as their "loophole", but I'd direct your attention to Hirabayashi and Korematsu in regard to the legitimacy of that claim.
In regard to the Fifth Amendment, however, there is no exception available nor was there any loophole claimed. They just did what they wanted, Constitution be damned. |
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Nature Boy Florida |
They did whatever they wanted. Like we will today.
And we can pay damages 20 years later if ruled against in the courts - by then the threat will have passed to something else.
Not sure why it would be surprising for anything to happen. Obama pretty much does as he wants. Hillary, Trump or Rubio will do the same.
If the Senate or House doesn't stand up and stop things - like they did against Nixon - it will continue.
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| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | | As far as your assertion that I am "advocating the abolition of the Bill of Rights" your about as far in left field as your politics. |
No one in history who traded their liberty for safety and security thought that's what they were doing at the time. To them, they were just advocating common sense restrictions on the rights of others. They were very surprised when they found they had in fact given up their own.
I am very comfortable leaving it to the viewers of this thread to decide which of the two of us is educated and knowledgeable about history -- and which of the two of us is doomed to repeat it. |
Just ignore what these muslim extremist are doing and we'll be history alright.
If you want to pet these people with love and lolly pops , have at it. I'm sure they will understand. In fact why dont you head out to Syria with your message and tiptoe through the tulips over there if you really believe it? Invite em to dinner at your house...  |
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Eddie Robbins |
What about locking up all black people in Chicago? There is much more killing there than in terrorism in the United States.
Bottom line....Trump is an idiot and I can guarantee you right now that he will not win the nomination and will run third party, regardless of his meaningless pledge. Hillary will be the president, thanks to Trump.
We are in deep trouble. |
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | What about locking up all black people in Chicago? There is much more killing there than in terrorism in the United States.
Bottom line....Trump is an idiot and I can guarantee you right now that he will not win the nomination and will run third party, regardless of his meaningless pledge. Hillary will be the president, thanks to Trump.
We are in deep trouble. |
Thankfully you are usually wrong Eddie. This will be no exception.
From what the news says - Chicago IS locking up all the blacks - or the cops are shooting all of them in the back - for no good reason. So you are too late with that idea.
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| UncleJD wrote: | while I understand the tide of anti-PC backlash and enjoy it myself. I will answer you question with one word .. precedent
Our laws are based as much on precedent as they are on written words, so if a President were able to do some of the things Trump proposes to Muslims, then what will the next Obama that is elected feel like he can do to Christians that he or she wants to classify as "dangerous".
More screening? Yes.
Fix the broken visa system? Yes.
Temporarily hold off on any further refugees? Yes.
Ban ALL Muslims from entry into the US? No
Track American Muslims in the US and monitor ALL mosques ? No
Encourage a system of citizen spying and reporting on Muslims? Not without clear criteria, think about Nazi Germany
Now, I'm not saying the Trump has said all of these things, but it sounds like he has. IF he's only saying lets temporarily hold off until we know how these people got through the system and were completely off the FBI's radar? Then Yes I agree with that. One of Trump's problems is that he's not a very clear communicator. He speaks in ambiguous terms (to say the least).
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It was a mistake to ever allow them here to begin with. The ban should be permanent.
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| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | No, its not "garbage", its what every liberty loving Christian conservative in America has discussed for the last 70 years. I highly doubt a regular poster on this forum such as yourself has NEVER posted about the possibility of the government coming after Christians for their views. |
Fascists never consider the long-term consequences of their views; only their immediate goals. They are short-sighted and cannot see that if the rule of law is compromised so they can punish or destroy their enemies, it will not be there later when they are the ones in need of its protections. |
There is nothing fascist about Trump.
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | What about locking up all black people in Chicago? There is much more killing there than in terrorism in the United States.
Bottom line....Trump is an idiot and I can guarantee you right now that he will not win the nomination and will run third party, regardless of his meaningless pledge. Hillary will be the president, thanks to Trump.
We are in deep trouble. |
Well if hillary gets in office your correct , we are in deep trouble.
I have been researching where black terrorist groups have blew up a building or beheaded christians but just cant seem to find a report anywhere.
I guess I'll change my search and see if I can find where a black mother has tied bombs to their children and sent them out for jihad. I'll let you know when I find a report. |
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I have already said this on Actscelerate, but I am fully convinced that Donald Trump is a narcissistic sociopath. Here is a description of a person with this kind of personality ...
"A narcissistic sociopath is someone with a combination of narcissistic personality disorder and definitive behavioral signs of sociopathy. People with narcissism are characterized by their excessive and persistent need for others' admiration and positive reinforcement. They generally have grandiose opinions of themselves and believe they are superior to other people. Narcissists are also frequently convinced that they are above the normal responsibilities and obligations of everyday life,
The narcissistic sociopath has this type of personality along with a noticeable lack of regard for the rights of others and a tendency to regularly violate those rights.
One noted difference between a narcissistic sociopath and people with narcissism alone is that the narcissist with the sociopathy reacts strongly and sometimes even violently to negative feedback. True sociopaths generally do not respond to criticism or care what others may think of them. A narcissistic sociopath is unable to tolerate criticism and needs constant praise, as well as deference from other people. Many with this condition present themselves in the best light possible and are able to easily charm others to gain their trust."
Such a person would be a disaster as president. It's a scary thought, ladies and gentlemen. This is not simply about different political ideologies. There is something deeper at work here.
I have never ever felt this strongly about any politician or candidate. He has none of the qualities that I want in a President.
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| drmrc wrote: | Such a person would be a disaster as president. It's a scary thought, ladies and gentlemen. This is not simply about different political ideologies. There is something deeper at work here.
I have never ever felt this strongly about any politician or candidate. He has none of the qualities that I want in a President. |
Before yesterday, I wouldn't have joked about Trump being like Hitler. After his statements yesterday and his incredibly dismissive rhetoric toward free speech today, I now see that this is exactly how Hitler came to power. He was a narcissistic sociopath who was willing to publicly declare and embody the most reactionary vision of his countrymen's fears.
Conservatives are consistently asked whether they would vote for Trump over Hillary. For me, the answer is no. I would never vote for Hillary or the Democrat nominee, but I also will not die knowing I helped to unleash a menace like Donald Trump on the world. |
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| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | drmrc wrote: | Such a person would be a disaster as president. It's a scary thought, ladies and gentlemen. This is not simply about different political ideologies. There is something deeper at work here.
I have never ever felt this strongly about any politician or candidate. He has none of the qualities that I want in a President. |
Before yesterday, I wouldn't have joked about Trump being like Hitler. After his statements yesterday and his incredibly dismissive rhetoric toward free speech today, I now see that this is exactly how Hitler came to power. He was a narcissistic sociopath who was willing to publicly declare and embody the most reactionary vision of his countrymen's fears.
Conservatives are consistently asked whether they would vote for Trump over Hillary. For me, the answer is no. I would never vote for Hillary or the Democrat nominee, but I also will not die knowing I helped to unleash a menace like Donald Trump on the world. |
Pure silliness. For starters, Trump is trying to stop the modern day Hitlers, not be one.
Secondly, you like so many simply do not understand what Trump is doing with these outlandish, in your face comments. I've been saying this for weeks and Rush FINALLY got around to agreeing with me today. Everything you need to know can be found in Trump's books on negotiating. He advocates a negotiating style where you come out swinging, making the most impossible and unreasonable demands. Your goal , of course, is to negotiate down in order to achieve what you are actually aiming for. We have needed someone like this in charge for years. Do you really think Trump intends on deporting 20 million people? What he is aiming for is the end of birthright citizenship and amnesty without any chance of citizenship. He will use this tactic on trade as well. Soon Chevys will be seen in the streets of Tokyo.
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But if you don't think there are 150,386 people who agree with him you would be wrong. He said it, BAn 'em and many agree.
And in saying it allowed the White House the chance to challenge the Republican leaders to denounce TRUMP, AND THEY DID. Most did it before the White House, but since when does the Democrats tell the republicans how to vote? Yeah this time big time and the CAndidates agreed.
He is just trying to be opposite of the mealy mouthed speech from the Oval Office. Now we have Republicans agreeing with Hillary, TRUMP is helping ISIS.
This race has shown one thing. There are enough loose cannons and no one knows which one to hide behind.
Of course I like someone who is ANTI-PC, I am sick of PC for PC's sake. If the streets of a city in NJ or Detroit had been full of 'moderate' Muslims decrying the terrorists you can bet your bottom dollar the TRUMP would not have gone so far.
The Protests are so loud the silence is killing me.
Do I like the statement NO I don't. Do I feel like that down inside, YES AT TIMES!
TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO GET ELECTED. But he certainly is going to split the GOP down the middle this time. Trump has a big base, but not enough to elect him.
DOES HE HAVE A SPEECH WRITER? He needs one. 
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | Dave Dorsey wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | No, its not "garbage", its what every liberty loving Christian conservative in America has discussed for the last 70 years. I highly doubt a regular poster on this forum such as yourself has NEVER posted about the possibility of the government coming after Christians for their views. |
Fascists never consider the long-term consequences of their views; only their immediate goals. They are short-sighted and cannot see that if the rule of law is compromised so they can punish or destroy their enemies, it will not be there later when they are the ones in need of its protections. |
There is nothing fascist about Trump. |
He was referring to me Res. not Trump. |
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"When a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under the government of individual men who for the time being have power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of what it ought to mean."
This was the dissenting opinion of the Dred Scott case written by Supreme Court Justice Benjamin Curtis in 1857.
This case, along with Korematsu, are considered among the worst decisions in SCOTUS history (along with Roe v. Wade in my opinion).
But these Justices did not think of themselves as bigots when they made those decisions. They genuinely thought they were looking out for the best interest of the nation. To say we should err on the side of caution and pay reparations later is acknowledging that we should forget the Constitution and interpret it how we please. "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission."
And if that truly is just a negotiation strategy by Trump, to come out swinging irresponsibly and settle for what you really wanted...that's risk we should not be willing to take. What if he gets what he is swinging for, then enjoys the power so much that he never does back down? Putin much? Again, a risk I'm not willing to take.
I've spoken to Trump supporters who say things like, "What would America be like if we constantly lived in fear that the next person who walks into a room with a backpack will blow himself up?"
My response is, "It would be like Israel."
Benjamin Netanyahu, one of our closest allies, Trump's statement on baking Muslims. It should speak volumes when the one country who lives this kind of terror 24/7, looks at the US and says, "that won't work."
But the bigger issue is our Christian response to this line of thought.
Just after the Paris attacks but prior to the CA attack, Jonathan Martin posted something profound. Say what you will about him, but his logic is sound and scriptural...and painful.
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http://www.jonathanmartinwords.com/blog/2015/11/11/the-worst-case-scenario
"No matter who we elect or what stance they take toward the world, it is inevitable: more terror is coming. The technology is too advanced and too accessible in a world that is already horribly broken. I have no doubts that we will live to see more apocalyptic events--not because of prophecy but arithmetic.
The unique claim of the Church, however, is that the worst thing that could ever happen has already happened: God died. We crucified the Son of love. And yet God has overcome the forces of death, with resurrection. This, and only this, is the reason we are able to live in the world without fear.
Now the worst case scenario is not something that evil men might to do us--the worst thing would be that we prove to be unfaithful to Jesus. The tragedies inflicted on us by people who have no light, no love, no gospel, and no truth pales in comparison to the tragedy of people who have the light of Christ denying the poor, the alien, the stranger, the fatherless, the widow. The pain inflicted by men full of devils is far less surprising than indifference toward suffering from the people of the cross.
No violence in the world could ever be as tragic as when the Church ceases to be the Church." |
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| CannonMan wrote: | "When a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under the government of individual men who for the time being have power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of what it ought to mean."
This was the dissenting opinion of the Dred Scott case written by Supreme Court Justice Benjamin Curtis in 1857.
This case, along with Korematsu, are considered among the worst decisions in SCOTUS history (along with Roe v. Wade in my opinion).
But these Justices did not think of themselves as bigots when they made those decisions. They genuinely thought they were looking out for the best interest of the nation. To say we should err on the side of caution and pay reparations later is acknowledging that we should forget the Constitution and interpret it how we please. "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission."
And if that truly is just a negotiation strategy by Trump, to come out swinging irresponsibly and settle for what you really wanted...that's risk we should not be willing to take. What if he gets what he is swinging for, then enjoys the power so much that he never does back down? Putin much? Again, a risk I'm not willing to take.
I've spoken to Trump supporters who say things like, "What would America be like if we constantly lived in fear that the next person who walks into a room with a backpack will blow himself up?"
My response is, "It would be like Israel."
Benjamin Netanyahu, one of our closest allies, Trump's statement on baking Muslims. It should speak volumes when the one country who lives this kind of terror 24/7, looks at the US and says, "that won't work."
But the bigger issue is our Christian response to this line of thought.
Just after the Paris attacks but prior to the CA attack, Jonathan Martin posted something profound. Say what you will about him, but his logic is sound and scriptural...and painful.
Taken from
http://www.jonathanmartinwords.com/blog/2015/11/11/the-worst-case-scenario
"No matter who we elect or what stance they take toward the world, it is inevitable: more terror is coming. The technology is too advanced and too accessible in a world that is already horribly broken. I have no doubts that we will live to see more apocalyptic events--not because of prophecy but arithmetic.
The unique claim of the Church, however, is that the worst thing that could ever happen has already happened: God died. We crucified the Son of love. And yet God has overcome the forces of death, with resurrection. This, and only this, is the reason we are able to live in the world without fear.
Now the worst case scenario is not something that evil men might to do us--the worst thing would be that we prove to be unfaithful to Jesus. The tragedies inflicted on us by people who have no light, no love, no gospel, and no truth pales in comparison to the tragedy of people who have the light of Christ denying the poor, the alien, the stranger, the fatherless, the widow. The pain inflicted by men full of devils is far less surprising than indifference toward suffering from the people of the cross.
No violence in the world could ever be as tragic as when the Church ceases to be the Church." |
Israel actually prevents many attacks by profiling. But nobody but Trump will do that here.
The Dred Scott analogy is flawed. What got everyone in an uproar was not the fact that the SCOTUS said Scott had no rights, but that they also ruled that the laws keeping slaves out of the territories was unconstitutional, an issue that was not actually part of the case. It was almost unprecedented for a SCOTUS to draw another issue into a case like that.
As far as constitutional issues go, the constitution does not give immigrants a right to come to the USA.
In this post you invoke the President of Israel, a country that does not allow massive Muslim immigration. To do so would be suicide for Israel, and for us. There is nothing in the gospel that calls for the USA or any other western nation to allow mass immigration of people of a faith that is anti-Christ. Therefore, let's stop this invoking of Jesus while denouncing those who, like the good man of the house, are staying alert and not allowing thieves to enter in to spoil his goods. Jonathan Martin's interpretation of scripture is flawed to say the least.
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| CannonMan wrote: | "When a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under the government of individual men who for the time being have power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of what it ought to mean."
This was the dissenting opinion of the Dred Scott case written by Supreme Court Justice Benjamin Curtis in 1857.
This case, along with Korematsu, are considered among the worst decisions in SCOTUS history (along with Roe v. Wade in my opinion).
But these Justices did not think of themselves as bigots when they made those decisions. They genuinely thought they were looking out for the best interest of the nation. To say we should err on the side of caution and pay reparations later is acknowledging that we should forget the Constitution and interpret it how we please. "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission."
And if that truly is just a negotiation strategy by Trump, to come out swinging irresponsibly and settle for what you really wanted...that's risk we should not be willing to take. What if he gets what he is swinging for, then enjoys the power so much that he never does back down? Putin much? Again, a risk I'm not willing to take.
I've spoken to Trump supporters who say things like, "What would America be like if we constantly lived in fear that the next person who walks into a room with a backpack will blow himself up?"
My response is, "It would be like Israel."
Benjamin Netanyahu, one of our closest allies, Trump's statement on baking Muslims. It should speak volumes when the one country who lives this kind of terror 24/7, looks at the US and says, "that won't work."
But the bigger issue is our Christian response to this line of thought.
Just after the Paris attacks but prior to the CA attack, Jonathan Martin posted something profound. Say what you will about him, but his logic is sound and scriptural...and painful.
Taken from
http://www.jonathanmartinwords.com/blog/2015/11/11/the-worst-case-scenario
"No matter who we elect or what stance they take toward the world, it is inevitable: more terror is coming. The technology is too advanced and too accessible in a world that is already horribly broken. I have no doubts that we will live to see more apocalyptic events--not because of prophecy but arithmetic.
The unique claim of the Church, however, is that the worst thing that could ever happen has already happened: God died. We crucified the Son of love. And yet God has overcome the forces of death, with resurrection. This, and only this, is the reason we are able to live in the world without fear.
Now the worst case scenario is not something that evil men might to do us--the worst thing would be that we prove to be unfaithful to Jesus. The tragedies inflicted on us by people who have no light, no love, no gospel, and no truth pales in comparison to the tragedy of people who have the light of Christ denying the poor, the alien, the stranger, the fatherless, the widow. The pain inflicted by men full of devils is far less surprising than indifference toward suffering from the people of the cross.
No violence in the world could ever be as tragic as when the Church ceases to be the Church." |
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