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Sanctification as a one-time event post salvation

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **10/22/15 3:02 pm**

This used to be a major emphasis in the COG and most Pentecostal denominations that came from a Holiness background.

How many of you believe you have to have an extra one-time sanctification experience after salvation before you can get baptized with the Holy Spirit?

Where does the Bible teach this? Can anyone point me to a verse?
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Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/22/15 3:16 pm**

While that may have been a true characterization of the way some taught sanctification, it is most definitely not how Wesley himself or even most modern Wesleyans would describe it.

1 Thess 5:23-24 is one of the strongest supporting texts for the Wesleyan doctrine of entire sanctification attainable in this life, not as a way of removing one's ability to sin (aka freewill), but of the Lord's faithfulness to make the believer entirely holy and preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord.

Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 He who calls you is faithful, who also will do it. 1 Thess. 5:23-24 NKJV

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Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **10/22/15 3:24 pm**

Quiet Wyatt, do you take that verse to mean that sanctification is a one-time experience subsequent to salvation? That was the area of disagreement early in the Pentecostal movement.
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Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/22/15 3:32 pm**

Like I said, the "one-time experience" idea was a caricature of the true Wesleyan doctrine.

I personally am kind of ambivalent about the Wesleyan view, but I honestly do see where verses like 1 Thess 5:23-24 support the idea of entire sanctification as taught by Wesley.

Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/22/15 3:37 pm**

Wesley himself actually taught that sanctification began with regeneration, ideally progressed in the life of the believer until entire sanctification was realized, and from that point on ideally continued to grow. It was referred to as a divine reversal of the fallen nature, in which the believer was enabled/empowered to love God and man as he ought. It was not a place from which no apostasy was possible, nor a means by which sinning became impossible.

Da Sheik

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1865 **10/22/15 7:00 pm**

When we got saved we got sanctified (it's biblical). There is still a progressive work as we become more conformed to the image of Christ

John Jett

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4955 **10/22/15 7:19 pm**

I was raised 4th gen COG, but I've always leaned toward the AG on this topic. I like to think of sanctification as "front-sliding", you know, the opposite of backsliding. Laughing

Old Time Country Preacher

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **10/22/15 9:36 pm**

Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/23/15 1:46 pm**

My own views cannot be strictly classified as Wesleyan, though I do have tremendous respect for Wesley and Wesleyanism. It has been rightly said that had there been no Wesleyanism, there would have been no modern-day Pentecostalism.

In any case, whether one agrees or disagrees with Wesley's ideas (I differ on several points with Wesley actually), his "A Plain Account of Christian Perfection" is indispensable for anyone wanting to understand what he actually taught regarding sanctification:
http://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/a-plain-account-of-christian-perfection/

Another excellent book that gives a good basic introductory survey of Wesley and the profound impact his life and ministry continues to have down to the present is Rediscovering John Wesley by Lee and COGTS grad, Dr. Winfield Bevins: http://www.amazon.com/Rediscovering-John-Wesley-Winfield-Bevins/dp/1596840242

Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/23/15 2:43 pm**

A good, brief article on Wesley's key concept of sanctification: http://www.ministrymatters.com/all/entry/6401/the-wesleys-holiness-and-life-in-the-spirit

JLarry

Acts Mod Posts: 3346 **10/23/15 3:14 pm**

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Sanctification

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1441 **10/26/15 5:37 pm**

Which term would best describe sanctification:
1. Initial sanctification
2. Second blessing, or crisis experience
3. Positional sanctification
4. Progressive sanctification
5. Practical sanctification
or
6. All of the above
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