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Resident Skeptic |
I just had this debate with one of my old college professors.....
RS...
| Quote: | | I have not endorsed Trump. I like both he and Cruz. Having said that...I have come to the place where I feel like the moral issues should not be in NATIONAL politics (though it is the left more than the right that puts them there). These are State issues for the most part and if we went by the Constitution, the Christian right would get 90% of what it wants by default. Thus our problem is a Constitutional more than a moral one. Christians are ignorant of the Constitution and try to win these moral battle by electing a President who will appoint "good judges". How absurd. The way to fight the moral battle is for 38 State legislatures to invoke Article 5 of the Constitution and have a convention of the States. As for Trump's less than perfect stand on the moral issues, I do not see him as one who will be an activist on any of them as Obama has been. I want a President who will defend the borders , promote sane economic/trade policy, and stand up to ISIS. Nothing else will matter if we no longer have national homogeneity. |
Prof's response....
| Quote: | | I can only suggest you re-read the Old Testament to see what happened to national Israel when their leaders fell away from God. Compare that with what happened when they returned to Him. Without a moral basis, there is no foundation. Do you think for even one moment a man who has repeatedly been unfaithful to his wives will be faithful to political promises? Get real... It is a well known premise that the most accurate predictor of a person's future performance is his history. Dismiss these issues at your own peril. The real solution to the morass of problems we face is that we as a nation have forsaken the foundation of our existence and need to return to the old paths... |
RS....
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Professor, I am surprised someone with your intellect so misunderstood what I wrote. Or perhaps I do not articulate well. So allow me to try again. My claim is NOT that the moral issues are not important. They indeed are. However, it has NOT been because of an embrace of immorality on the part of the majority of citizens that we lost prayer in school, had abortion on demand forced on us, and now have been forced to let gays marry. What has brought all of these upon us has been a faulty view of the Constitution by leftist controlled courts. Christians responded to this by trying to restack the courts with more conservative judges, but this approach has failed and actually helps to perpetuate the myth that Federal judges have the right to make these rulings to begin with. When I say that the moral issues should not be "NATIONAL" issues, I am speaking strictly from the standpoint of a Constitutionalist. These are issues left up to the States per the Constitution's SILENCE on them. Thus the States have been robbed of the right to decide for themselves on these issue.
90% of the States would never have allowed prayer to be removed from schools, abortion on demand or gay marriage. Therefore, the solution is for the STATES to invoke Article 5 and have a convention designed to re-chain the Federal Government to the limits imposed on it by the Constitution. As for the standard you are holding
Trump to. I fear that no candidate in modern history would pass your litmus test. Most of them use their position in government to reward their friends and punish their enemies. Most are selling out our sovereignty to the NWO. Trump certainly has had some questionable business dealings. But I do not believe his are nearly as bad as those done by 90% of people holding public office and that used that office to commit their corrupt acts. Furthermore, I at least believe that Trump would actually have a sane economic policy, bring better trade deals to America, and get rid of illegal immigration. Presently, I have not endorsed him. But I prefer him a thousand times over any other candidate other than Cruz and think he would actually be a net positive for America. |
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| Re: My response to a Trump basher |
DrDuck |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | I just had this debate with one of my old college professors.....
RS...
| Quote: | | I have not endorsed Trump. I like both he and Cruz. Having said that...I have come to the place where I feel like the moral issues should not be in NATIONAL politics (though it is the left more than the right that puts them there). These are State issues for the most part and if we went by the Constitution, the Christian right would get 90% of what it wants by default. Thus our problem is a Constitutional more than a moral one. Christians are ignorant of the Constitution and try to win these moral battle by electing a President who will appoint "good judges". How absurd. The way to fight the moral battle is for 38 State legislatures to invoke Article 5 of the Constitution and have a convention of the States. As for Trump's less than perfect stand on the moral issues, I do not see him as one who will be an activist on any of them as Obama has been. I want a President who will defend the borders , promote sane economic/trade policy, and stand up to ISIS. Nothing else will matter if we no longer have national homogeneity. |
Prof's response....
| Quote: | | I can only suggest you re-read the Old Testament to see what happened to national Israel when their leaders fell away from God. Compare that with what happened when they returned to Him. Without a moral basis, there is no foundation. Do you think for even one moment a man who has repeatedly been unfaithful to his wives will be faithful to political promises? Get real... It is a well known premise that the most accurate predictor of a person's future performance is his history. Dismiss these issues at your own peril. The real solution to the morass of problems we face is that we as a nation have forsaken the foundation of our existence and need to return to the old paths... |
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Professor, I am surprised someone with your intellect so misunderstood what I wrote. Or perhaps I do not articulate well. So allow me to try again. My claim is NOT that the moral issues are not important. They indeed are. However, it has NOT been because of an embrace of immorality on the part of the majority of citizens that we lost prayer in school, had abortion on demand forced on us, and now have been forced to let gays marry. What has brought all of these upon us has been a faulty view of the Constitution by leftist controlled courts. Christians responded to this by trying to restack the courts with more conservative judges, but this approach has failed and actually helps to perpetuate the myth that Federal judges have the right to make these rulings to begin with. When I say that the moral issues should not be "NATIONAL" issues, I am speaking strictly from the standpoint of a Constitutionalist. These are issues left up to the States per the Constitution's SILENCE on them. Thus the States have been robbed of the right to decide for themselves on these issue.
90% of the States would never have allowed prayer to be removed from schools, abortion on demand or gay marriage. Therefore, the solution is for the STATES to invoke Article 5 and have a convention designed to re-chain the Federal Government to the limits imposed on it by the Constitution. As for the standard you are holding
Trump to. I fear that no candidate in modern history would pass your litmus test. Most of them use their position in government to reward their friends and punish their enemies. Most are selling out our sovereignty to the NWO. Trump certainly has had some questionable business dealings. But I do not believe his are nearly as bad as those done by 90% of people holding public office and that used that office to commit their corrupt acts. Furthermore, I at least believe that Trump would actually have a sane economic policy, bring better trade deals to America, and get rid of illegal immigration. Presently, I have not endorsed him. But I prefer him a thousand times over any other candidate other than Cruz and think he would actually be a net positive for America. |
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Resident S, I find that I agree with you on so very much of what you post; but the more I see of Trump the more I think he is simply crazy. At times he seems to talk a good game. If he were to be the same president as he is a candidate it would be good for the country. I just cannot bring myself to believe he will play the same game if elected. |
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trump will play the hand that edifies himself and give him more power. If you or anyone or anything else is in the way of his quest they will be labeled as stupid or another noun/adjective from his pool of compliments.
If you think Obama divided the country , try trump. |
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| Re: My response to a Trump basher |
Resident Skeptic |
| DrDuck wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | I just had this debate with one of my old college professors.....
RS...
| Quote: | | I have not endorsed Trump. I like both he and Cruz. Having said that...I have come to the place where I feel like the moral issues should not be in NATIONAL politics (though it is the left more than the right that puts them there). These are State issues for the most part and if we went by the Constitution, the Christian right would get 90% of what it wants by default. Thus our problem is a Constitutional more than a moral one. Christians are ignorant of the Constitution and try to win these moral battle by electing a President who will appoint "good judges". How absurd. The way to fight the moral battle is for 38 State legislatures to invoke Article 5 of the Constitution and have a convention of the States. As for Trump's less than perfect stand on the moral issues, I do not see him as one who will be an activist on any of them as Obama has been. I want a President who will defend the borders , promote sane economic/trade policy, and stand up to ISIS. Nothing else will matter if we no longer have national homogeneity. |
Prof's response....
| Quote: | | I can only suggest you re-read the Old Testament to see what happened to national Israel when their leaders fell away from God. Compare that with what happened when they returned to Him. Without a moral basis, there is no foundation. Do you think for even one moment a man who has repeatedly been unfaithful to his wives will be faithful to political promises? Get real... It is a well known premise that the most accurate predictor of a person's future performance is his history. Dismiss these issues at your own peril. The real solution to the morass of problems we face is that we as a nation have forsaken the foundation of our existence and need to return to the old paths... |
RS....
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Professor, I am surprised someone with your intellect so misunderstood what I wrote. Or perhaps I do not articulate well. So allow me to try again. My claim is NOT that the moral issues are not important. They indeed are. However, it has NOT been because of an embrace of immorality on the part of the majority of citizens that we lost prayer in school, had abortion on demand forced on us, and now have been forced to let gays marry. What has brought all of these upon us has been a faulty view of the Constitution by leftist controlled courts. Christians responded to this by trying to restack the courts with more conservative judges, but this approach has failed and actually helps to perpetuate the myth that Federal judges have the right to make these rulings to begin with. When I say that the moral issues should not be "NATIONAL" issues, I am speaking strictly from the standpoint of a Constitutionalist. These are issues left up to the States per the Constitution's SILENCE on them. Thus the States have been robbed of the right to decide for themselves on these issue.
90% of the States would never have allowed prayer to be removed from schools, abortion on demand or gay marriage. Therefore, the solution is for the STATES to invoke Article 5 and have a convention designed to re-chain the Federal Government to the limits imposed on it by the Constitution. As for the standard you are holding
Trump to. I fear that no candidate in modern history would pass your litmus test. Most of them use their position in government to reward their friends and punish their enemies. Most are selling out our sovereignty to the NWO. Trump certainly has had some questionable business dealings. But I do not believe his are nearly as bad as those done by 90% of people holding public office and that used that office to commit their corrupt acts. Furthermore, I at least believe that Trump would actually have a sane economic policy, bring better trade deals to America, and get rid of illegal immigration. Presently, I have not endorsed him. But I prefer him a thousand times over any other candidate other than Cruz and think he would actually be a net positive for America. |
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Resident S, I find that I agree with you on so very much of what you post; but the more I see of Trump the more I think he is simply crazy. At times he seems to talk a good game. If he were to be the same president as he is a candidate it would be good for the country. I just cannot bring myself to believe he will play the same game if elected. |
Which one the following would he not do?
1) Make trade deals that actually benefited both the American worker and businessman.
2) Seal the border.
3) Do away with the anchor baby loophole.
4) Deport many illegals.
5) Stop immigration by Muslims.
6) Beef up the military.
7) Simplify the tax code.
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| Deporting 13 million people will be interesting to watch. |
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Deporting 13 million people will be interesting to watch. |
He won't have to deport all of them. A couple of million, maybe...and then
"the art of the deal" will kick in. The left will surrender and agree to amnesty with no chance of citizenship EVER and an end to the anchor baby loophole. That is Trump's ploy here.
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | He won't have to deport all of them. A couple of million, maybe... |
If the federal government deports 1,370 people per day, including weekends and federal holidays, they'll hit 2 million by the end of Trump's first term. |
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Nehemiah had plenty of detractors as well.
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| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | Nehemiah had plenty of detractors as well. |
I kind of admired the trash talk:
Now Tobiah the Ammonite was by him, and he said, Even that which they build, if a fox go up, he shall even break down their stone wall.
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| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | He won't have to deport all of them. A couple of million, maybe... |
If the federal government deports 1,370 people per day, including weekends and federal holidays, they'll hit 2 million by the end of Trump's first term. |
Take all the weekends off & all the major holidays with a vacation thrown in every year & he could deport 2 million within 4 years using military transport jets with 200 on board per jet & a mere 10 jets a day. Double the jets & get it all done in 2 years.
I like that list of things he says he'll work on to get accomplished but I still don't see him getting elected. My goodness it's only February & the election isn't until November. A lot of things are going to take place between now & November, some might even be catastrophic.
1) Make trade deals that actually benefited both the American worker and businessman.
2) Seal the border.
3) Do away with the anchor baby loophole.
4) Deport many illegals.
5) Stop immigration by Muslims.
6) Beef up the military.
7) Simplify the tax code.
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| Re: My response to a Trump basher |
DrDuck |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | DrDuck wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | I just had this debate with one of my old college professors.....
RS...
| Quote: | | I have not endorsed Trump. I like both he and Cruz. Having said that...I have come to the place where I feel like the moral issues should not be in NATIONAL politics (though it is the left more than the right that puts them there). These are State issues for the most part and if we went by the Constitution, the Christian right would get 90% of what it wants by default. Thus our problem is a Constitutional more than a moral one. Christians are ignorant of the Constitution and try to win these moral battle by electing a President who will appoint "good judges". How absurd. The way to fight the moral battle is for 38 State legislatures to invoke Article 5 of the Constitution and have a convention of the States. As for Trump's less than perfect stand on the moral issues, I do not see him as one who will be an activist on any of them as Obama has been. I want a President who will defend the borders , promote sane economic/trade policy, and stand up to ISIS. Nothing else will matter if we no longer have national homogeneity. |
Prof's response....
| Quote: | | I can only suggest you re-read the Old Testament to see what happened to national Israel when their leaders fell away from God. Compare that with what happened when they returned to Him. Without a moral basis, there is no foundation. Do you think for even one moment a man who has repeatedly been unfaithful to his wives will be faithful to political promises? Get real... It is a well known premise that the most accurate predictor of a person's future performance is his history. Dismiss these issues at your own peril. The real solution to the morass of problems we face is that we as a nation have forsaken the foundation of our existence and need to return to the old paths... |
RS....
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Professor, I am surprised someone with your intellect so misunderstood what I wrote. Or perhaps I do not articulate well. So allow me to try again. My claim is NOT that the moral issues are not important. They indeed are. However, it has NOT been because of an embrace of immorality on the part of the majority of citizens that we lost prayer in school, had abortion on demand forced on us, and now have been forced to let gays marry. What has brought all of these upon us has been a faulty view of the Constitution by leftist controlled courts. Christians responded to this by trying to restack the courts with more conservative judges, but this approach has failed and actually helps to perpetuate the myth that Federal judges have the right to make these rulings to begin with. When I say that the moral issues should not be "NATIONAL" issues, I am speaking strictly from the standpoint of a Constitutionalist. These are issues left up to the States per the Constitution's SILENCE on them. Thus the States have been robbed of the right to decide for themselves on these issue.
90% of the States would never have allowed prayer to be removed from schools, abortion on demand or gay marriage. Therefore, the solution is for the STATES to invoke Article 5 and have a convention designed to re-chain the Federal Government to the limits imposed on it by the Constitution. As for the standard you are holding
Trump to. I fear that no candidate in modern history would pass your litmus test. Most of them use their position in government to reward their friends and punish their enemies. Most are selling out our sovereignty to the NWO. Trump certainly has had some questionable business dealings. But I do not believe his are nearly as bad as those done by 90% of people holding public office and that used that office to commit their corrupt acts. Furthermore, I at least believe that Trump would actually have a sane economic policy, bring better trade deals to America, and get rid of illegal immigration. Presently, I have not endorsed him. But I prefer him a thousand times over any other candidate other than Cruz and think he would actually be a net positive for America. |
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Resident S, I find that I agree with you on so very much of what you post; but the more I see of Trump the more I think he is simply crazy. At times he seems to talk a good game. If he were to be the same president as he is a candidate it would be good for the country. I just cannot bring myself to believe he will play the same game if elected. |
Which one the following would he not do?
1) Make trade deals that actually benefited both the American worker and businessman.
2) Seal the border.
3) Do away with the anchor baby loophole.
4) Deport many illegals.
5) Stop immigration by Muslims.
6) Beef up the military.
7) Simplify the tax code. |
My point is that there is no assurance that he will do anything he says he will do no matter how excited people become over his brash rhetoric.
Newt Gingrich seems to me to have the most level headed evaluation of Trump. He says we simply don't know what kind of president Trump would make because Trump does not know that himself. |
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Dave Dorsey |
| Dean Steenburgh wrote: | | Take all the weekends off & all the major holidays with a vacation thrown in every year & he could deport 2 million within 4 years using military transport jets with 200 on board per jet & a mere 10 jets a day. Double the jets & get it all done in 2 years. |
It's hilarious that you think the government is capable of deporting 2,000 people across 20 jet flights per work day for two years.
Where are these jets going to land, exactly?
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c6thplayer1 |
What ever he deports will be an improvement of what the politicians are doing now.
I am really aggravated with his persona towards opposition , but I'm even more aggravated with the do nothing republican politicians in office now. |
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Dean Steenburgh |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Dean Steenburgh wrote: | | Take all the weekends off & all the major holidays with a vacation thrown in every year & he could deport 2 million within 4 years using military transport jets with 200 on board per jet & a mere 10 jets a day. Double the jets & get it all done in 2 years. |
It's hilarious that you think the government is capable of deporting 2,000 people across 20 jet flights per work day for two years.
Where are these jets going to land, exactly? |
Dave I was merely giving a mathematical example of how it could be done ...I don't pretend to know the logistics.
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Dave Dorsey |
Well, the logistics are kind of important when we're discussing the plausibility of an idea. Mathematically it could work if he teleported 100,000 per day -- he'd have it done in just over a fortnight. But that's not super helpful because teleportation doesn't exist.
RS made the claim that Trump would deport 2,000,000 people and then the Democrats would play ball. The bottom line is that there is no way on God's green earth that is possible.
This is the problem with Trump. He throws out wild ideas and when someone points out it's not possible he and his supporters just say he'll make it work.
When someone can tell me where 20 jets are going to land every work day for two years to unload their 4,000 immigrants, we can talk about how Trump is going to make the Dems play ball on immigration. |
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| Dave Dorsey wrote: | Well, the logistics are kind of important when we're discussing the plausibility of an idea. Mathematically it could work if he teleported 100,000 per day -- he'd have it done in just over a fortnight. But that's not super helpful because teleportation doesn't exist.
RS made the claim that Trump would deport 2,000,000 people and then the Democrats would play ball. The bottom line is that there is no way on God's green earth that is possible.
This is the problem with Trump. He throws out wild ideas and when someone points out it's not possible he and his supporters just say he'll make it work.
When someone can tell me where 20 jets are going to land every work day for two years to unload their 4,000 immigrants, we can talk about how Trump is going to make the Dems play ball on immigration. |
He could deport 100,000 and the left will still cave. Bottom line, if his posture is very tough, deals will be made. Art of the deal.
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | Dave Dorsey wrote: | Well, the logistics are kind of important when we're discussing the plausibility of an idea. Mathematically it could work if he teleported 100,000 per day -- he'd have it done in just over a fortnight. But that's not super helpful because teleportation doesn't exist.
RS made the claim that Trump would deport 2,000,000 people and then the Democrats would play ball. The bottom line is that there is no way on God's green earth that is possible.
This is the problem with Trump. He throws out wild ideas and when someone points out it's not possible he and his supporters just say he'll make it work.
When someone can tell me where 20 jets are going to land every work day for two years to unload their 4,000 immigrants, we can talk about how Trump is going to make the Dems play ball on immigration. |
He could deport 100,000 and the left will still cave. Bottom line, if his posture is very tough, deals will be made. Art of the deal. |
Art of the deal means nothing in the political world. If you believe the left will cave like the business world, your not really in tune with how politics works.
The Left does not cave that easy.
If Trump is president, 90% of the list will never get done. |
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Deporting 13 million people will be interesting to watch. |
He won't have to deport all of them. A couple of million, maybe...and then
"the art of the deal" will kick in. The left will surrender and agree to amnesty with no chance of citizenship EVER and an end to the anchor baby loophole. That is Trump's ploy here. |
Well, Obama has probably deported as many as a couple of million. |
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skinnybishop |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | DrDuck wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | I just had this debate with one of my old college professors.....
RS...
| Quote: | | I have not endorsed Trump. I like both he and Cruz. Having said that...I have come to the place where I feel like the moral issues should not be in NATIONAL politics (though it is the left more than the right that puts them there). These are State issues for the most part and if we went by the Constitution, the Christian right would get 90% of what it wants by default. Thus our problem is a Constitutional more than a moral one. Christians are ignorant of the Constitution and try to win these moral battle by electing a President who will appoint "good judges". How absurd. The way to fight the moral battle is for 38 State legislatures to invoke Article 5 of the Constitution and have a convention of the States. As for Trump's less than perfect stand on the moral issues, I do not see him as one who will be an activist on any of them as Obama has been. I want a President who will defend the borders , promote sane economic/trade policy, and stand up to ISIS. Nothing else will matter if we no longer have national homogeneity. |
Prof's response....
| Quote: | | I can only suggest you re-read the Old Testament to see what happened to national Israel when their leaders fell away from God. Compare that with what happened when they returned to Him. Without a moral basis, there is no foundation. Do you think for even one moment a man who has repeatedly been unfaithful to his wives will be faithful to political promises? Get real... It is a well known premise that the most accurate predictor of a person's future performance is his history. Dismiss these issues at your own peril. The real solution to the morass of problems we face is that we as a nation have forsaken the foundation of our existence and need to return to the old paths... |
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Professor, I am surprised someone with your intellect so misunderstood what I wrote. Or perhaps I do not articulate well. So allow me to try again. My claim is NOT that the moral issues are not important. They indeed are. However, it has NOT been because of an embrace of immorality on the part of the majority of citizens that we lost prayer in school, had abortion on demand forced on us, and now have been forced to let gays marry. What has brought all of these upon us has been a faulty view of the Constitution by leftist controlled courts. Christians responded to this by trying to restack the courts with more conservative judges, but this approach has failed and actually helps to perpetuate the myth that Federal judges have the right to make these rulings to begin with. When I say that the moral issues should not be "NATIONAL" issues, I am speaking strictly from the standpoint of a Constitutionalist. These are issues left up to the States per the Constitution's SILENCE on them. Thus the States have been robbed of the right to decide for themselves on these issue.
90% of the States would never have allowed prayer to be removed from schools, abortion on demand or gay marriage. Therefore, the solution is for the STATES to invoke Article 5 and have a convention designed to re-chain the Federal Government to the limits imposed on it by the Constitution. As for the standard you are holding
Trump to. I fear that no candidate in modern history would pass your litmus test. Most of them use their position in government to reward their friends and punish their enemies. Most are selling out our sovereignty to the NWO. Trump certainly has had some questionable business dealings. But I do not believe his are nearly as bad as those done by 90% of people holding public office and that used that office to commit their corrupt acts. Furthermore, I at least believe that Trump would actually have a sane economic policy, bring better trade deals to America, and get rid of illegal immigration. Presently, I have not endorsed him. But I prefer him a thousand times over any other candidate other than Cruz and think he would actually be a net positive for America. |
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Resident S, I find that I agree with you on so very much of what you post; but the more I see of Trump the more I think he is simply crazy. At times he seems to talk a good game. If he were to be the same president as he is a candidate it would be good for the country. I just cannot bring myself to believe he will play the same game if elected. |
Which one the following would he not do?
1) Make trade deals that actually benefited both the American worker and businessman.
2) Seal the border.
3) Do away with the anchor baby loophole.
4) Deport many illegals.
5) Stop immigration by Muslims.
6) Beef up the military.
7) Simplify the tax code. |
I don't think "He" is going to do any of that. I don't think any of the candidates are capable of that. I know I'm splitting hairs a bit here....but people tend to forget the President can't just wave a magic wand and make these things happen.
Well....a President is not supposed to be able to do so....But I suppose if Trump had a pen and a phone, he could get all of that done.
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