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c6thplayer1 |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Quote: | | Your principles are going to pave the way for greater funding for abortions world wide cause she's a big proponent of funding abortions in 3rd world countries. |
And where does Trump stand on that? |
allow me to answer that bonnie ;
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Eddie Robbins |
| People died for my right to vote how ever I want. That is not horse hooey. Just because I don't bite the way you do.BTW, it doesn't matter in your state either. They are voting for the Democrat. |
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Brandon Bohannon |
Honest question:
Everyone here realizes that popular vote doesn't matter, right?
We all understand the electoral college, correct?
In my town and state we are Republicans. Me choosing to abstain in the national election does not change anything.
My vote does matter to local and state politics. Locally, we only have a little over 4,000 registered voters. A vote for Sheriff, for example, matters.
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| Brandon Bohannon wrote: | Honest question:
Everyone here realizes that popular vote doesn't matter, right?
We all understand the electoral college, correct?
In my town and state we are Republicans. Me choosing to abstain in the national election does not change anything.
My vote does matter to local and state politics. Locally, we only have a little over 4,000 registered voters. A vote for Sheriff, for example, matters. |
Its my understanding the the electoral college has always voted with the popular vote. |
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| Brandon Bohannon wrote: | Honest question:
Everyone here realizes that popular vote doesn't matter, right?
We all understand the electoral college, correct?
In my town and state we are Republicans. Me choosing to abstain in the national election does not change anything. |
Trump is likely to siphon off some blue collar Democrat voters, and it's likely many Republicans will find themselves unable to vote for him. This has the potential to make some states more competitive than usual, though there are certainly still many in which an individual vote doesn't matter.
Nevertheless, to Eddie's point, people died so I would have the right to vote in accordance with my principles, and it's worth making a stand against Dean's line of reasoning based on that alone. I will not be shamed into working to put a New York liberal into office for the purpose of keeping a different New York liberal out of the office. |
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1/31/16 6:11 pm
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Dave Dorsey |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Its my understanding the the electoral college has always voted with the popular vote. |
They have always voted with the popular vote of their states. Nationally, things could differ. They did in 2000 when Al Gore won the popular vote but GWB won the presidency. Hayes and Harrison also won the presidency without winning the popular vote. |
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1/31/16 6:12 pm
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Brandon Bohannon |
The notion that "I/we are the reason that Obama won" is crazy. My county went for Romney. My state went for Romney. Me abstaining from voting in that particular race had zero impact on the outcome of the race. Neither will it in this instance.
My hope is in Jesus Christ and His righteous return. I am thankful for those who have served our nation. Much of my family have and still are. The argument that I'm doing them some disservice by abstaining if it is Trump vs Clinton or Trump vs Sanders is again, crazy. I can assure you that they don't like any of those options either.
I'm not embarrassed that if the election happened today, I'd like:
Rubio
Carson
Christie
Bush
Kasich
Cruz
Huckabee
Fiorina
Paul
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1/31/16 6:43 pm
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Dave Dorsey |
| Even if your vote alone made all the difference, it's your right to cast it in accordance with your principles. |
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1/31/16 7:05 pm
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Cojak |
My vote will go for what I think is logically the best for this country. I am voting for a Commander in Chief.
I know Trump is Liberal. I know he flips/flops. I also know MOST people that have gone to Washington are liberal, and also change their minds. If that was not true, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.
Trump is NOT my choice. If he is chosen as the nominee, I will make my mind up during that campaign process. If during that period he still looks as 'crazy?' (not the word I want but that is what came to mind, being from the south) I might change my mind. It will also depend on who is his running mate and it it looks like there will be any cooperation between the two.
Like Perot, he isn't stupid or ignorant. Once it appears that he realizes WHAT HE CAN and WHAT HE CANNOT do, it might make a difference then.
He has blown a lot of HOT AIR, but so has MOST of the others, just in a different way and attitude.
Everyone of them have promised things they cannot, will not do! 
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| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Brandon Bohannon wrote: | Honest question:
Everyone here realizes that popular vote doesn't matter, right?
We all understand the electoral college, correct?
In my town and state we are Republicans. Me choosing to abstain in the national election does not change anything. |
Trump is likely to siphon off some blue collar Democrat voters, and it's likely many Republicans will find themselves unable to vote for him. This has the potential to make some states more competitive than usual, though there are certainly still many in which an individual vote doesn't matter.
Nevertheless, to Eddie's point, people died so I would have the right to vote in accordance with my principles, and it's worth making a stand against Dean's line of reasoning based on that alone. I will not be shamed into working to put a New York liberal into office for the purpose of keeping a different New York liberal out of the office. |
I'm sorry to see that you feel you're being 'shamed' into something ...which kinda sounds like there's something there but ...oh well.
When you live in Calif & you're a conservative it's a lot like being a tuna living in shark infested water.
Libs in charge never ever give conservatives the time of day and you'll soon see what I mean if she wins office.
Some of you might live in a nice home spun area where you know your politicians and life is ok & you feel like you can wether the upcoming life with Hilary in office.
Have at it with the principle vote which sounds pretty lame.
Keep in mind the people who died for you to have a vote would roll over in their graves knowing you allowed a hard line socialist liberal to acquire office all in the name of 'I have to vote my principles'.
I remember some of you not voting for Romney back in 2012 because he was Mormon but you supposedly didn't vote for Obama either ....yeah right ...bawwaaabawwaaa!!!!!
Then after the election I read some of you saying "don't blame me that he's in office cause I didn't vote for Obama ...and I didn't vote Romney either" you said.
Well when you don't vote for the only guy who can beat them you are voting for them whether you agree or not, in principle you give your vote away.
One thing I learned a few years back is that nobody can be swayed to change their political persuasions so I'm dropping out of the topic on this last post about it.
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Cojak |
Vote, Vote what is BEST for the country.
I will vote in Florida. I assume it will go GOP, but I do not KNOW that.
I live by principles, the people around me know that. I am logical also. I know if everyone feels like they know which way the vote is going there is no need to vote.
All I tell my family is, do not throw that precious vote away. I did once. I thought since Perot was doing good, he had a chance. I was younger then and really wanted change, so I pushed Perot.
It wasn't until a long time later, I realized and admitted I had thrown a vote away. I don't blame anyone for 'voting their principles', but look at the situation logically, do what will be best for the country.
I know men who have written their own names in as a vote for General Overseer years ago. They knew they were throwing their vote away, but they said they were trying to make a point? Yeah right!
Is there a difference in Trump and Hillary? I think so, but I really do not know, I will make that decision before I cast my vote. BUT when I vote it will be for someone who 'Possibly has a chance', not Perot!
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Eddie Robbins |
| I have voted for a Republican in every presidential election since I was I was 18. Trump is not a Republican. |
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | I have voted for a Republican in every presidential election since I was I was 18. Trump is not a Republican. |
That's exactly right. If the race comes down to two New York liberals, or a New York liberal and a Vermont socialist, I cannot vote for what's best for the country by voting for either one of them. |
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c6thplayer1 |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Its my understanding the the electoral college has always voted with the popular vote. |
They have always voted with the popular vote of their states. Nationally, things could differ. They did in 2000 when Al Gore won the popular vote but GWB won the presidency. Hayes and Harrison also won the presidency without winning the popular vote. |
that can happen but the electoral college still voted with majority in their states. |
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skinnybishop |
I cannot bring myself to vote for Donald Trump
I will not vote for Hillary Clinton
I will not vote for Bernie Sanders
I have voted in every state and national election, since I was 18. But if the choices are Trump and Clinton....or Trump and Sanders....I may just stay home. Call me what you will.
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Brandon Bohannon |
| skinnybishop wrote: | I cannot bring myself to vote for Donald Trump
I will not vote for Hillary Clinton
I will not vote for Bernie Sanders
I have voted in every state and national election, since I was 18. But if the choices are Trump and Clinton....or Trump and Sanders....I may just stay home. Call me what you will. |
This is how I feel too Eddie. Calling me names doesn't change my mind. Insulting my patriotism doesn't change my mind. I hope it doesn't come to that. There are candidates left that I would vote for.
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I'll hold my nose and vote for him unless someone mounts a viable 3rd party conservative campaign. My state is bright Red (Texas), but the lefties are moving in like crazy so I'll vote no matter what. I wish the governor would mandate a "This is why you moved to Texas" course so the idiots wouldn't trash the state like they did the one they moved from.
I'll vote for Cruz in the primary, then whoever wins the nomination in November. |
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| Not voting is voting for the other person |
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If one chooses not to vote, it is basically a vote for whoever is running against them.
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| Re: Not voting is voting for the other person |
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| doyle wrote: | | If one chooses not to vote, it is basically a vote for whoever is running against them. |
Someone holds a child in front of you and says they are going to stab them to death, or peacefully and painlessly suffocate them to death. In the latter case, the child will be deprived of oxygen but not air, and will peacefully fall asleep prior to painlessly asphyxiating. You are required to vote to choose which will occur. You are the only one voting. If you do not vote, the killer will choose one of the methods of execution.
Do you vote in favor of suffocation?
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