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 Trump is not for single payer (L) |
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So with the conclusion that it is "half true" where do you get that its a "myth" Its just as true as it is not.
Also, as a state's rights guy I find his "artificial lines" comment disturbing. Thanks for pointing that one out, it gives me more pause about him, I think he's just another federal statist without any reservation for power to the states (no doubt a result of his NY upbringing, who would consider state's rights from that state?), who wants to further consolidate power to the federal government.
| Quote: | | "What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state …..Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have yourself great plans. And then we have to take care of the people that can’t take care of themselves. And I will do that through a different system. |
The entire article is full of examples of him supporting single-payer socialized medicine whether its for other countries, or even here "in another age" whatever that means.
| Quote: | | "As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here. |
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| Re: Trump is not for single payer (L) |
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| UncleJD wrote: |
So with the conclusion that it is "half true" where do you get that its a "myth" Its just as true as it is not.
Also, as a state's rights guy I find his "artificial lines" comment disturbing. Thanks for pointing that one out, it gives me more pause about him, I think he's just another federal statist without any reservation for power to the states (no doubt a result of his NY upbringing, who would consider state's rights from that state?), who wants to further consolidate power to the federal government.
| Quote: | | "What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state …..Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have yourself great plans. And then we have to take care of the people that can’t take care of themselves. And I will do that through a different system. |
The entire article is full of examples of him supporting single-payer socialized medicine whether its for other countries, or even here "in another age" whatever that means.
| Quote: | | "As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here. |
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The "artificial line" around the States he was referring to is the restrictions currently placed on insurance companies from competing across State lines.
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Trump does about what everyone running for office says, 'I'm saying what you would like to hear (to the best of my ability).'
This doesn't bother me, it is something he cannot do without congress. Omamacare is law, it ain't going away! Maybe some parts will change. WE will go back to what we had with more administrators on the payroll. 
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| Cojak wrote: | Trump does about what everyone running for office says, 'I'm saying what you would like to hear (to the best of my ability).'
This doesn't bother me, it is something he cannot do without congress. Omamacare is law, it ain't going away! Maybe some parts will change. WE will go back to what we had with more administrators on the payroll. |
He can suspend large parts of through executive order, since it is only a "tax". And since Obamacare is unconstitutional to begin with, I hope he would.
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | Cojak wrote: | Trump does about what everyone running for office says, 'I'm saying what you would like to hear (to the best of my ability).'
This doesn't bother me, it is something he cannot do without congress. Omamacare is law, it ain't going away! Maybe some parts will change. WE will go back to what we had with more administrators on the payroll. |
He can suspend large parts of through executive order, since it is only a "tax". And since Obamacare is unconstitutional to begin with, I hope he would. |
It has been before the Supreme Court a couple times hasn't it? It is the Law, no one in authority has said it is unconstitutional, now matter what we think. 
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1/29/16 11:53 am
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| Cojak wrote: |
It has been before the Supreme Court a couple times hasn't it? It is the Law, no one in authority has said it is unconstitutional, now matter what we think. |
Here's a point of government that I probably agree with RS on (he'll correct me if I'm wrong). The SCOTUS opinion may be final (extremely debatable), but it doesn't mean the other 2 branches of government have to go along with it remember the branches are supposed to have check and balance and we seem to have forgotten that there are checks and balances against the SC too, but it doesn't mean it has to be enforced or funded in any way. |
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| UncleJD wrote: | | Cojak wrote: |
It has been before the Supreme Court a couple times hasn't it? It is the Law, no one in authority has said it is unconstitutional, now matter what we think. |
Here's a point of government that I probably agree with RS on (he'll correct me if I'm wrong). The SCOTUS opinion may be final (extremely debatable), but it doesn't mean the other 2 branches of government have to go along with it remember the branches are supposed to have check and balance and we seem to have forgotten that there are checks and balances against the SC too, but it doesn't mean it has to be enforced or funded in any way. |
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| UncleJD wrote: | | Cojak wrote: |
It has been before the Supreme Court a couple times hasn't it? It is the Law, no one in authority has said it is unconstitutional, now matter what we think. |
Here's a point of government that I probably agree with RS on (he'll correct me if I'm wrong). The SCOTUS opinion may be final (extremely debatable), but it doesn't mean the other 2 branches of government have to go along with it remember the branches are supposed to have check and balance and we seem to have forgotten that there are checks and balances against the SC too, but it doesn't mean it has to be enforced or funded in any way. |
Exactly. The Supreme Court is only one of three co-equal branches. It is a myth to believe they are the "polit bureau".
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Cojak wrote: |
It has been before the Supreme Court a couple times hasn't it? It is the Law, no one in authority has said it is unconstitutional, now matter what we think. |
Here's a point of government that I probably agree with RS on (he'll correct me if I'm wrong). The SCOTUS opinion may be final (extremely debatable), but it doesn't mean the other 2 branches of government have to go along with it remember the branches are supposed to have check and balance and we seem to have forgotten that there are checks and balances against the SC too, but it doesn't mean it has to be enforced or funded in any way. |
Exactly. The Supreme Court is only one of three co-equal branches. It is a myth to believe they are the "polit bureau". |
i used to watch some detective TV show with Tom Selleck in it. He had a line he used every week, "I don't know how I knew, I just knew!"
So, I do not know if I agree or not, but I knew you would agree!
  at's cool!
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| Your right His singularity is a myth |
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| Re: Your right His singularity is a myth |
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| c6thplayer1 wrote: | |
A little misleading, but so is Trump about Cruz.
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