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 A recent article concerning Naghmeh Abedini (L) |
bonnie knox |
It is noted in the article that Saeed Abedini pleaded guilty to domestic violence in 2007.
As common as domestic violence is, it is quite likely happening to people within our churches. How do you react when someone says he or she is abused?
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/community/boise/article57202263.html
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1/29/16 10:22 pm
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Eddie Robbins |
| My wife has an obsession gene. She has been all over this story in support of the pastor and gets blasted by women who support his wife only because she is a woman. If a woman says she is abused, they always take the said of the woman. I don't know that much about it but you may see my wife's name in some of these comment sections on Franklin Graham's site as well as Charisma. |
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1/30/16 7:02 am
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Dave Dorsey |
The only right thing to do is immediately proceed as if both parties are telling the truth. Before we have any information, we cannot conclude if a woman has actually been abused or not, or if she has visible bruises and scars, that they were caused by the person she is accusing. We can never be certain of the truth based only on an allegation. But if a woman has been abused, or if visible bruises have been caused by someone close to her, it would be awful to not give her the love and support she needs during that time. On the other hand, the cost of temporarily giving love and support to someone who is not actually a victim is very low. Therefore her account that something happened should be trusted and accepted, even if we don't go so far as to trust and accept that the person she is accusing was the culprit.
On the other hand, as Eddie said, our society has a growing and very damaging tendency to accept allegation as guilt. We also must guard ourselves against this. The cost of presuming innocence for an actual abuser is low (so long as we are also accepting the accuser's word that something happened as true, even if we are not going so far as to accept as true that it was at the hands of the person she accused); the cost of putting someone who is innocent through a wringer of guilt and shame is very high.
We tend to approach these situations as if the man is lying, or as if the woman is lying. We should instead approach them as if both are telling the truth and offer love, care, and support to both sides until facts emerge and a proper determination can be made. |
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1/30/16 9:36 am
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| Eddie...your wife is...BEULAH??? |
Aaron Scott |
I never knew that, nor would I have guessed it from your liberal, Baptist, Democrat, always exercising, against obesity, self!
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1/30/16 10:13 am
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Cojak |
Over the years I have noticed when there is a problem 'reported' of a man and wife WE DO NOT KNOW, I take the side of the wife and my wife sides with the husband. I have often wondered why that is.
Women are HARD on women for some reason, or that is how I have perceived it. I have never worked for a woman, so I have no idea how I would feel. My wife has worked for several women and men and the only 'problems' have been with the female boss.
This is a very touchy and serious problem, knowing when and 'if' to report abuse. It is serious enough to ruin a man or woman's entire LIFE, and endanger their jobs and personal welfare.
The abuse situations I have known personally (2) have been child abuse types. One the step child with diagnosed mental problems accused a nephew of abuse. He was a pastor in NYC. He was publicly arrested, cuffed and taken from his church office. All charges were dropped after investigation, but the 'doubt seed' had been planted.
I have never been taken into confidence by a man or woman who claimed abuse, I really do not know what I would do except advise caution UNLESS THE PERSON FEARED FOR THEIR LIFE, then I 'might' take personal action regarding a report.
 
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1/30/16 10:41 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | My wife has an obsession gene. She has been all over this story in support of the pastor and gets blasted by women who support his wife only because she is a woman. If a woman says she is abused, they always take the said of the woman. I don't know that much about it but you may see my wife's name in some of these comment sections on Franklin Graham's site as well as Charisma. |
I can see it now, Eddie. There will be no mention of one Eddie Robbins. The article will go something like this,
In contrast, Mrs. Mary Robbins, daughter of Church of God historian, Charles Conn, and sister of Lee University president, Dr. Paul Conn, states that Nagmeh "shouldn't a been throwin all them fryin pans at Saeed an the ole boy wouldnta had to restrain her."  |
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1/30/16 10:58 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
If there are no physical scars - then not jumping to conclusions is the right thing to do.
Today - there are women that get hormonal imbalances - and if not treated - can say all types of things about their husbands - and anyone close to them...with only a small grain of truth.
There are also many men that physically and verbally abuse their wives. It is hard to determine "verbal" abuse without actually being there.
Dave's advice is right on here. Believe them both - help them sort it out.
Try not to judge or shun them.
It might be you one day.
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1/30/16 11:31 am
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Eddie Robbins |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | My wife has an obsession gene. She has been all over this story in support of the pastor and gets blasted by women who support his wife only because she is a woman. If a woman says she is abused, they always take the said of the woman. I don't know that much about it but you may see my wife's name in some of these comment sections on Franklin Graham's site as well as Charisma. |
I can see it now, Eddie. There will be no mention of one Eddie Robbins. The article will go something like this,
In contrast, Mrs. Mary Robbins, daughter of Church of God historian, Charles Conn, and sister of Lee University president, Dr. Paul Conn, states that Nagmeh "shouldn't a been throwin all them fryin pans at Saeed an the ole boy wouldnta had to restrain her." |
Either you made up the name "Mary" or you did some deep research.  |
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1/31/16 7:21 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | My wife has an obsession gene. She has been all over this story in support of the pastor and gets blasted by women who support his wife only because she is a woman. If a woman says she is abused, they always take the said of the woman. I don't know that much about it but you may see my wife's name in some of these comment sections on Franklin Graham's site as well as Charisma. |
I can see it now, Eddie. There will be no mention of one Eddie Robbins. The article will go something like this,
In contrast, Mrs. Mary Robbins, daughter of Church of God historian, Charles Conn, and sister of Lee University president, Dr. Paul Conn, states that Nagmeh "shouldn't a been throwin all them fryin pans at Saeed an the ole boy wouldnta had to restrain her." |
Either you made up the name "Mary" or you did some deep research. |
Eddie, the ole timer is closer to the Conn family than ya ever imagined. |
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1/31/16 1:54 pm
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