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Quiet Wyatt |
"The tragedy of my brother is he eventually fell to his own humanity. The triumph of my brother is that his art was never touched by that tragedy. His art was affirmation that there was hope, there was beauty, and a statement of love that wasn't touched by this."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/08/the-drunken-downfall-of-evangelical-america-s-favorite-painter.html
It appears that his death was caused by alcohol and Valium intoxication, and that it was his chronic alcoholism which really led to his death. He also apparently did most of his painting during manic bouts of sobriety.
While I personally was never a big fan of his work (though I did admire some of it, especially in his early days), as a former alcoholic myself, I can't help but identify with Kincade's brokenness and struggle and feel genuine sympathy for him. It seems to me that he tried to paint the perfect world that his heart so longed for.
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Cojak |
To tell the truth I did not recognize the name, but when I just make a quick check of his works, yes I have admired his works for years.
Aaron mentioned in his sermon Sunday, "WE know so little about drugs and alcohol we want to say, "JUST STOP IT! There is so much more to it than that. When Aaron said that in his sermon I remember saying basically the same thing to a nephew who had been a champion in the Golden Gloves, and had such a future but drugs took him down and out at 43.
I feel for those close to the addict who ride the ups and downs with them until it takes the toll on them. 
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As with all talented people - to see their demons exposed - and how it takes everything in their life - is truly very sad - and one to be pitied.
Too bad this prodigal never found his way home.
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12/2/15 6:19 pm
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Da Sheik |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | As with all talented people - to see their demons exposed - and how it takes everything in their life - is truly very sad - and one to be pitied.
Too bad this prodigal never found his way home. |
I hope he did but I agree with you NBF. So many gifted and talented people are dealing with terrible addictions and it's tragic. |
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12/2/15 6:26 pm
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Cojak |
The post on Dekker went off stride to Kincade.
It is one of those things in art that amazes me. I look at the picture (painting) if I think it is beautiful, I like it. I glanced back thru stuff Kincade did and I like it. I like the snow scenes. The country churches. The Family spots.
I did not know about Kincade's life. I never took an art appreciation course, I plan to if I ever retire from the road. Since I do paint, I have read a lot and I still like Kincade's stuff over Van-G. I even think the Mona Lisa is pretty but since I am no critique, I have seen better by much less acclaimed artists.
BUT to me, I like a beautiful picture, and wish I were as talented. I do appreciate the artist, but I do not buy paintings. 
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UncleJD |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | As with all talented people - to see their demons exposed - and how it takes everything in their life - is truly very sad - and one to be pitied.
Too bad this prodigal never found his way home. |
We agree, it is a tragic story. Money and fame at the cost of ones soul always is. I pray he found forgiveness before the last second ticked away. |
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| Re: Thomas Kinkade and his Losing Battle with Alcoholism... |
bradfreeman |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | "The tragedy of my brother is he eventually fell to his own humanity. The triumph of my brother is that his art was never touched by that tragedy. His art was affirmation that there was hope, there was beauty, and a statement of love that wasn't touched by this."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/08/the-drunken-downfall-of-evangelical-america-s-favorite-painter.html
It appears that his death was caused by alcohol and Valium intoxication, and that it was his chronic alcoholism which really led to his death. He also apparently did most of his painting during manic bouts of sobriety.
While I personally was never a big fan of his work (though I did admire some of it, especially in his early days), as a former alcoholic myself, I can't help but identify with Kincade's brokenness and struggle and feel genuine sympathy for him. It seems to me that he tried to paint the perfect world that his heart so longed for. |
What is the point of this post?
To highlight a brother's weakness/humanity?
Are you planning on going public with your secret struggles?
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12/3/15 6:55 am
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Quiet Wyatt |
| In the thread about Dekker's novels, http://www.actscelerate.com/viewtopic.php?t=84064 Kinkade's art was criticized as being "drug-addled." I had not heard that he was addicted to drugs but had struggled with alcoholism, so I was curious, and looked for better information than I had. When I came across the article in the Daily Beast, I felt it shed light on Kinkade's struggles, and might give better understanding to some concerning them. |
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Nature Boy Florida |
Brad,
In this instance, I believe the article was appropriate.
Kinkade was charged on Actscelerate with being drug addled - as a derogatory slur towards his paintings.
I thought it was an unfair cheap shot.
This article painted a fair biography of the man and his talent...and his untimely demise.
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12/3/15 7:46 am
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diakoneo |
| Most people don't know that alcohol is a drug as is caffeine. |
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| diakoneo wrote: | | Most people don't know that alcohol is a drug as is caffeine. |
Yep. All these Starbucks addicted preachers is no different than A A Allen or Kinkade. Lots of em even got the cup a Java settin on at little table side their stool where they chit chatting with the folk (they call it preachin). Shameful ain't it, they brazenly open bout their addiction. |
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georgiapath |
I just paid $6.95 for a Christmas Card for our Sunday School teacher. I don't have any of his paintings but I do buy the Christmas Cards.
It's too bad that his life ended that way. |
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12/3/15 1:42 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
| diakoneo wrote: | | Most people don't know that alcohol is a drug as is caffeine. |
I know both these things. But people don't usually refer to drunks as "drug-addled." They just call them drunks. In any case, the article says Kinkade was sober while he painted.
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12/3/15 1:48 pm
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| Quote: | | In any case, the article says Kinkade was sober while he painted. |
I couldn't find anything in the article (the one linked to in The Beast) saying he was sober while he painted, though it seems likely to me that he was.
To say his art transcended the humanity that he succumbed to is not necessarily saying he painted sober; it is saying that his artwork succeeded in conveying hope, beauty, and love. |
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12/3/15 2:53 pm
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diakoneo |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | diakoneo wrote: | | Most people don't know that alcohol is a drug as is caffeine. |
Yep. All these Starbucks addicted preachers is no different than A A Allen or Kinkade. Lots of em even got the cup a Java settin on at little table side their stool where they chit chatting with the folk (they call it preachin). Shameful ain't it, they brazenly open bout their addiction. |
Yeah I have a coffee drinking problem too.
I suppose "socially acceptable" would be the term used for alcohol.
As to caffeine, it is not mind altering or mind numbing and "socially acceptable" in MOST Christian circles  |
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12/3/15 3:10 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Quote: | | In any case, the article says Kinkade was sober while he painted. |
I couldn't find anything in the article (the one linked to in The Beast) saying he was sober while he painted, though it seems likely to me that he was.
To say his art transcended the humanity that he succumbed to is not necessarily saying he painted sober; it is saying that his artwork succeeded in conveying hope, beauty, and love. |
I read several articles on Kinkade yesterday. I apparently got that from a different article. I will try and find which one I read it in. Sorry about the confusion. |
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| diakoneo wrote: | | As to caffeine, it is not mind altering or mind numbing |
I don't know, D, hey, I drunk a few cups a hot coffee the other mornin an got right comfortably numb, an for I knowed it ma mind had been altered to the point I wanted to take a nap. |
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12/3/15 6:58 pm
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georgiapath |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Quote: | | In any case, the article says Kinkade was sober while he painted. |
I couldn't find anything in the article (the one linked to in The Beast) saying he was sober while he painted, though it seems likely to me that he was.
To say his art transcended the humanity that he succumbed to is not necessarily saying he painted sober; it is saying that his artwork succeeded in conveying hope, beauty, and love. |
I read several articles on Kinkade yesterday. I apparently got that from a different article. I will try and find which one I read it in. Sorry about the confusion. |
I thought it was in the above article too. |
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