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Bullseye77

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Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1441 **7/2/13 8:21 am**

OK. I am out of the loop. I am not familiar with the minister or the church. But I have questions. What are the specific issues that led up to this event? I am curious as to what disagreement there is between the pastor and the denomination. What does the pastor want to do that he cannot do within the denomination? What roadblocks, if any, have been thrown up by the denomination that impeded the progress that was being made by the church and pastor? Are there really limitations to ministry within the church? Just to simplify it all, what's the problem? No moral failure on the part of the pastor. Apparently, no conflict between pastor and congregation, at least with the leadership. So what specifically brought this about?
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Golf Cart Mafia Underboss Posts: 3945 **7/2/13 8:52 am**

I have no clue and don't personally know Buck, though we have had conversations on acts.

5th Generation CoG.

Agenda item #1, passed at the last GA established an "affiliate" status for congregations not in the CoG to come in with only one difference: They retain ownership of their property.

Cleveland holding the deed has long been held to be a preventative against pastors taking a church independent, as was keeping Church of God in the name of the church. Can anyone think of one example of this happening at a church that still had CoG in their name?

I have long held that being CoG, yet having members who don't know that, is deceitful and cannot be blessed. And being CoG but ignoring the business practices laid out in the MINUTES for every church to follow is infidelity... not keeping your word. This cannot be blessed either.

Information about the situation out there in Texas is not before me, but I can't think of one legitimate reason for any pastor of any CoG to leave the church and take "his" congregation with him to a nearby location.

I don't know Buck like I know Tom or Travis, but this feels very much like hearing one of them had done this.

Lord knows I have had plenty to say against the actions of State and International officials. But this ain't right. The house is dividing against itself.

sheepdogandy

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7298 **7/2/13 9:03 am**

So far this thread is long on tease and short on specifics.

If his encounter with a state overseer was anything like mine, he has a very good reason to leave.

But, since no one is going to divulge specific information, we are left to speculate.

I ain't fishing, just making an observation.
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JLarry

Bro Bob

Acts Mod Posts: 3346 **7/2/13 12:00 pm**

Matt Boyd

Time line from Buck

Friendly Face Posts: 296 **7/2/13 5:33 pm**

I just spoke with Buck and he wanted me to let you all know that he will post the timeline and further explanation late tonight.

mytimewillcome

Re: Time line from Buck

Golf Cart Mafia Underboss Posts: 3661 **7/2/13 6:35 pm**

Daniel Rushing

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3063 **7/2/13 9:13 pm**

I was made aware of the details last night and was grieved in my spirit. I was heart broken and angry. I will most likely not stay up late for the timeline, and don't need to as I pretty much have a solid grasp on what went down. So, let me say this now before the post is out and the hounds let loose.

I pray that something can be done to undo this act of unrighteousness on behalf of some leaders in our church. Secondly, I hope that all those who decide to choose sides and defend the actions of one or the other, to remember that in the end we are talking about humans, who have families, and churches, and ministries, and we must remain considerate. Finally, if things do not change, I fear (and will be disgusted) that a precedent has been set that is not only unrighteous, but destructive to our continued viability as a Spirit filled movement. My prayers are with Buck, his family, and his church.

JLarry

Acts Mod Posts: 3346 **7/3/13 7:56 am**

Did I miss Bucks post or was it removed?

AnOnYmOuS4ArEaSoN

Friendly Face Posts: 202 **7/3/13 8:09 am**

Man...this was like waking up on Christmas morning and not having any presents under the tree.... Laughing

Matt Boyd

Posting the update for this community is not #1 on his list

Friendly Face Posts: 296 **7/3/13 8:44 am**

He will get to it when he gets to it. Smile

This is a good lesson in patience! Enjoy!

Dave Dorsey

Re: Posting the update for this community is not #1 on his l

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 13654 **7/3/13 8:48 am**

bonnie knox

Re: Posting the update for this community is not #1 on his l

bonnie knox · [Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **7/3/13 9:03 am**

SouthGeorgiaBoy

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1037 **7/3/13 9:03 am**

Matt Boyd

Re: Posting the update for this community is not #1 on his l

Friendly Face Posts: 296 **7/3/13 9:07 am**

SPORTSFAN

Two sides

Hey, DOC Posts: 57 **7/3/13 9:51 am**

We need to remember that there are two sides to this situation. Before we get crazy, there are lots of details that we don't know.

bonnie knox

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **7/3/13 9:53 am**

Matt Boyd

Friendly Face Posts: 296 **7/3/13 10:19 am**

caseyleejones

I haven't gone to sleep.....

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11795 **7/3/13 10:25 am**

Still waiting.....

bonnie knox

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **7/3/13 10:32 am**

Rafael D Martinez

I frankly have more important things to do ..

Acts-dicted Posts: 7766 **7/3/13 10:36 am**

.. and will have the rest of the week.

Sure, I'm curious and saddened by all of this.

But living on the edge of my seat waiting with dry mouth and elevated heartbeat at a computer to hear this kind of thing? Please.

I fail utterly to see the draw of waiting on the shoe to drop here or making this more dramatically framed than it really has been. When the parties involved get to it, they will get to it.

To quote the famous Southern theologian Bubba McJunkin, from Tellico Plains .. "Y'all just chill, willyuns?"
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