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 2024 General Assembly agenda item on social media |
Quiet Wyatt |
The powers that be clearly want to clamp down much harder on social media interaction, judging by the GA Agenda item we just received. On first reading, it appears to give far greater subjective judgment to what would constitute irresponsible use of social media, by including quite subjectively defined concepts such as being “harsh” to its list of forbidden things on social media. No doubt the many CoG snowflakes amongst us will be the first to cry “harsh” and to accuse tellers of uncomfortable truths of being unloving.
No doubt about it, the powers that be are riled up about all the flak they’ve received about Lee in recent years, and are looking to stifle dissent. |
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Nature Boy Florida |
They don't want what comes with social media.
So, sadly, they won't reach the people that interact on social media.
COG always 50 years behind.
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6/4/24 8:18 am
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| Re: 2024 General Assembly agenda item on social media |
FLRon |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | The powers that be clearly want to clamp down much harder on social media interaction, judging by the GA Agenda item we just received. On first reading, it appears to give far greater subjective judgment to what would constitute irresponsible use of social media, by including quite subjectively defined concepts such as being “harsh” to its list of forbidden things on social media. No doubt the many CoG snowflakes amongst us will be the first to cry “harsh” and to accuse tellers of uncomfortable truths of being unloving.
No doubt about it, the powers that be are riled up about all the flak they’ve received about Lee in recent years, and are looking to stifle dissent. |
Would you mind posting the info for those of us not in the loop?
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6/7/24 3:43 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
https://mcusercontent.com/98e1da87c6ba38bba6f45c48b/files/e523b2b2-8d2f-bab4-0795-9310431a7c1d/GA24_Agenda_rdx.pdf
The portion regarding Social Media use can be found on page B-59, or you can search for “Social Media” and find it within the PDF.
The primarily troubling portion is the use of the terms, “harsh” and “demeaning” which are defined as “personal attacks,” by this motion. So, anyone whose comments might be considered “harsh” or “demeaning” could be accused and perhaps even subjected to ecclesiastical discipline, censure, or even trial based on such subjectively defined terms.
(I tried copying and pasting the relevant portion of the Agenda, but for some reason I was not able to on my phone). |
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6/7/24 4:51 pm
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4thgeneration |
I don't think it stands a chance. It sounds too much like censorship, and is too vague in its wording. As it is written, anyone could feel offended, deem posts a violation, and press charges against a minister.
Just my O! |
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6/8/24 8:07 am
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georgiapath |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | https://mcusercontent.com/98e1da87c6ba38bba6f45c48b/files/e523b2b2-8d2f-bab4-0795-9310431a7c1d/GA24_Agenda_rdx.pdf
The portion regarding Social Media use can be found on page B-59, or you can search for “Social Media” and find it within the PDF.
The primarily troubling portion is the use of the terms, “harsh” and “demeaning” which are defined as “personal attacks,” by this motion. So, anyone whose comments might be considered “harsh” or “demeaning” could be accused and perhaps even subjected to ecclesiastical discipline, censure, or even trial based on such subjectively defined terms.
(I tried copying and pasting the relevant portion of the Agenda, but for some reason I was not able to on my phone). |
I clicked on the above link and read it all. |
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6/8/24 10:37 am
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| Re: Censorship |
Quiet Wyatt |
| 4thgeneration wrote: | I don't think it stands a chance. It sounds too much like censorship, and is too vague in its wording. As it is written, anyone could feel offended, deem posts a violation, and press charges against a minister.
Just my O! |
I hope you are right. It is very concerning that the EC felt this motion should be on the agenda. |
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6/8/24 11:30 am
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georgiapath |
| What is menclature? I've never seen that word before. It's in B-54 No 9. |
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6/8/24 12:21 pm
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| I did not find “menclature” or any word similar on that page |
Quiet Wyatt |
| I searched the entire Agenda for the word, “menclature,” and only found “nomenclature.” I also googled “menclature definition” and it took me to the definition of “nomenclature.” |
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6/8/24 12:48 pm
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| Re: I did not find “menclature” or any word similar on that page |
georgiapath |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | I searched the entire Agenda for the word, “menclature,” and only found “nomenclature.” I also googled “menclature definition” and it took me to the definition of “nomenclature.” |
Sorry. that's it. What does it mean? |
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6/8/24 5:58 pm
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FLRon |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | https://mcusercontent.com/98e1da87c6ba38bba6f45c48b/files/e523b2b2-8d2f-bab4-0795-9310431a7c1d/GA24_Agenda_rdx.pdf
The portion regarding Social Media use can be found on page B-59, or you can search for “Social Media” and find it within the PDF.
The primarily troubling portion is the use of the terms, “harsh” and “demeaning” which are defined as “personal attacks,” by this motion. So, anyone whose comments might be considered “harsh” or “demeaning” could be accused and perhaps even subjected to ecclesiastical discipline, censure, or even trial based on such subjectively defined terms.
(I tried copying and pasting the relevant portion of the Agenda, but for some reason I was not able to on my phone). |
Thank you!
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6/8/24 8:58 pm
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FLRon |
| 4thgeneration wrote: | I don't think it stands a chance. It sounds too much like censorship, and is too vague in its wording. As it is written, anyone could feel offended, deem posts a violation, and press charges against a minister.
Just my O! |
Once again, it would seem the CoG wants to go backwards instead of forwards. Heavy-handed, overreaching, strong arm attempts to “control” people never works. Furthermore, the entire proposed resolution could be summed up in “love your neighbor as yourself”.
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6/8/24 9:01 pm
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| Re: I did not find “menclature” or any word similar on that page |
Quiet Wyatt |
| georgiapath wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | I searched the entire Agenda for the word, “menclature,” and only found “nomenclature.” I also googled “menclature definition” and it took me to the definition of “nomenclature.” |
Sorry. that's it. What does it mean? |
From Oxford:
the devising or choosing of names for things, especially in a science or other discipline.
"the Linnean system of zoological nomenclature"
the body or system of names in a particular field.
plural noun: nomenclatures
"the nomenclature of chemical compounds"
FORMAL
the term or terms applied to someone or something.
"“customers” was preferred to the original nomenclature “passengers.”" |
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6/8/24 9:14 pm
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| Re: I did not find “menclature” or any word similar on that page |
georgiapath |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | georgiapath wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | I searched the entire Agenda for the word, “menclature,” and only found “nomenclature.” I also googled “menclature definition” and it took me to the definition of “nomenclature.” |
Sorry. that's it. What does it mean? |
From Oxford:
the devising or choosing of names for things, especially in a science or other discipline.
"the Linnean system of zoological nomenclature"
the body or system of names in a particular field.
plural noun: nomenclatures
"the nomenclature of chemical compounds"
FORMAL
the term or terms applied to someone or something.
"“customers” was preferred to the original nomenclature “passengers.”" |
Thank you. |
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6/9/24 6:13 am
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4thgeneration |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | 4thgeneration wrote: | I don't think it stands a chance. It sounds too much like censorship, and is too vague in its wording. As it is written, anyone could feel offended, deem posts a violation, and press charges against a minister.
Just my O! |
I hope you are right. It is very concerning that the EC felt this motion should be on the agenda. |
I feel like it is a reaction to a few people stirring things concerning Lee University and the charges that were filed against TJ on a couple of FB sites. |
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6/9/24 8:36 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
| FLRon wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | https://mcusercontent.com/98e1da87c6ba38bba6f45c48b/files/e523b2b2-8d2f-bab4-0795-9310431a7c1d/GA24_Agenda_rdx.pdf
The portion regarding Social Media use can be found on page B-59, or you can search for “Social Media” and find it within the PDF.
The primarily troubling portion is the use of the terms, “harsh” and “demeaning” which are defined as “personal attacks,” by this motion. So, anyone whose comments might be considered “harsh” or “demeaning” could be accused and perhaps even subjected to ecclesiastical discipline, censure, or even trial based on such subjectively defined terms.
(I tried copying and pasting the relevant portion of the Agenda, but for some reason I was not able to on my phone). |
Thank you! |
So was it harsh to rip the whole Exec Committee for very poor management of finances when they let an employee take a minimum of 1,000,000 in tithe dollars right from under their nose?
Would I get brought up on charges for pointing that out today?
We already know you get charges for posting someone's picture approving of gay affirming communion.
COG should just close down now if this happens. You can never say "the Emperor has no clothes" with that kind of rule.
Find us an infallible Pope to run things.
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6/9/24 2:23 pm
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georgiapath |
| 4thgeneration wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | 4thgeneration wrote: | I don't think it stands a chance. It sounds too much like censorship, and is too vague in its wording. As it is written, anyone could feel offended, deem posts a violation, and press charges against a minister.
Just my O! |
I hope you are right. It is very concerning that the EC felt this motion should be on the agenda. |
I feel like it is a reaction to a few people stirring things concerning Lee University and the charges that were filed against TJ on a couple of FB sites. |
They want to make sure nobody does what TJ did, it's a warning I think. |
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6/9/24 7:18 pm
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Carolyn Smith wrote: | Hereafter known as the TJ motion...  |
Agreed.
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6/10/24 9:02 am
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skinnybishop |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | 4thgeneration wrote: | I don't think it stands a chance. It sounds too much like censorship, and is too vague in its wording. As it is written, anyone could feel offended, deem posts a violation, and press charges against a minister.
Just my O! |
I hope you are right. It is very concerning that the EC felt this motion should be on the agenda. |
On the COG FB site, Tom Sterbens revealed two VERY concerning things. Bishop Hill confirmed these facts, with his own post as well.
1. The Executive Committee determined that conversation on the Excellent Ministry FB page needed to be "reigned in".
2. It was suggested that "someone from headquarters" MONITOR that site.
It concerns me greatly, that conversations on a Facebook site would cause that much of a stir in Cleveland.
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