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Cojak

Father, son, Church pastorates

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24278 **11/19/23 2:45 pm**

Many churches in the USA and abroad pass from Father to son, Some are successful some falter because the Son is not what the Dad was...

That is common in Non-denominations and in denominations. It also happens in the COG. MOST of the time because the men's council agrees with the Senior pastor when he suggests it and the overseer goes along.

A good idea and a bad idea me thinks. I still think a vote should be taken on a Sunday morning and the vote should carry the most weight.

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sheepdogandy

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7298 **11/20/23 10:00 am**

I know of two Congregations in the A/G where it happened

Both are very successful

In our case the Church Constitution dictates the procedure for Pastoral succession
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caseyleejones

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11795 **11/21/23 4:32 pm**

I have seen this local and abroad. Right now Jesus Image Church in Florida has packed out crowds. It was originally Benny Hinns church. Sold to Clint Brown went into bankruptcy. Now his daughter and son in law have taken it over and it is packed with young people. I know that is not what you are addressing but worth a note.

Cojak

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FLRon

Acts-celerater Posts: 774 **12/2/23 4:40 pm**

I have always been opposed to family succession in the church. I believe it fosters the idea of favoritism and cronyism, both alive and well in the church of God. To me, it’s copying the worldly system of generational success as seen in some companies. I’d much rather sit under a pastor who has earned his stripes instead of having them given to him by daddy.
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Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **12/5/23 1:46 pm**

I see a plurality of elders in one church in scripture. If both a father and son fit the requirements of being elder, that's fine, but if there are other elders, then it looks like a bit less of a case of nepotism.

It's less messy if we aren't talking about a decent full-time income, and just one of them at that, that goes along with a job passed from father to son.

Regarding neopotism. Peter and Andrew, and James and John were sets of brothers. They were paired together. Maybe they went out together, two by two. Mark calls Levi the son of Alphaeus. If Levi is Matthew, then notice this in Matthew 10

"and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus". Maybe since Matthew/Levi's designation of 'publican' he wasn't also called the son of Alphaeus in the passage.

Cojak

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24278 **12/6/23 11:20 am**

roughridercog

The power to appoint pastors is guarded by most AB's

Acts Mod Posts: 25306 **12/14/23 1:22 pm**

It us essentially "the way we've always done it" and a great way to put men into key positions that will support both the AB and the state program.
But larger churches are learning.
If they start a satellite church the local church can put who that want over that.
Now back to the original question.
Why wouldn't you appoint a son to follow a pastor? If it works, great! The ones who will whine the loudest about it will be those who are sore they weren't considered for the church.
There, said it and I'm glad.
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roughridercog

The power to appoint pastors is guarded by most AB's

Acts Mod Posts: 25306 **12/14/23 1:22 pm**

It us essentially "the way we've always done it" and a great way to put men into key positions that will support both the AB and the state program.
But larger churches are learning.
If they start a satellite church the local church can put who that want over that.
Now back to the original question.
Why wouldn't you appoint a son to follow a pastor? If it works, great! The ones who will whine the loudest about it will be those who are sore they weren't considered for the church.
There, said it and I'm glad.
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Cojak

Re: The power to appoint pastors is guarded by most AB's

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24278 **12/19/23 7:49 pm**

UncleJD

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3144 **12/22/23 12:08 pm**

sheepdogandy

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7298 **12/22/23 3:23 pm**

Hey, that's great!
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