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Post The GA Agenda is Now Available on the COG Website Old Time Country Preacher
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Post Re: The GA Agenda is Now Available on the COG Website Starvin' Darvin
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Nothing to see here, keep it moving. Rolling Eyes
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Post Shocked Andy Stevens
I'm so shocked to see so little in our agenda. In an era of "gender confusion," transgenderism, etc I would have thought we might deal with current issues we are facing on front lines. This short agenda should make the motions committee items a sure thing...wonder what will be brought to the floor then. Hey, DOC
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Post Re: The GA Agenda is Now Available on the COG Website Old Time Country Preacher
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Nothing to see here, keep it moving. Rolling Eyes



Nothin other than the agenda!


http://churchofgod.org.s3.amazonaws.com/ga2016/General-Council-Agenda-Evangel-Final-Revised-4-No-Bleed.pdf
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Im more interested in how to minister to certain people who are in situations thst are new to culture.

For instance a woman who once was a man attended our church and a Unitarian Church. He/she was torn because he/she realized the mistake and wanted acceptance and victory over the consequential depression. We ministered to this person and made he/she feel welcome and not awkward. How does this person repent and is there a pathway to ministry for this person?

Another time we had a 7 year old girl who thought she should be a boy. Her liberal parents supported this, allowed her to dress like a boy and we're in beginning phase of hormone therapy research. Additionally they had no problem at all if this girl grew up to become lesbian. I shared that this was incompatible with being a member and minister. I recommended Christian counseling so she could get to the root and embrace the person that God created her to be.

As far as bathrooms - a transgender person who truly looks the part likely has already been using restroom of choice. Now predators have governmental permission to join in.

These are issues that as a movement we are largely quiet about, have zero resolutions on, and no supporting symposiums or materials to help us in the field. Hence I think it's s missed opportunity to clarify not only our stance but practical practices of ministry.

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Andy Stevens wrote:
I'm so shocked to see so little in our agenda. In an era of "gender confusion," transgenderism, etc I would have thought we might deal with current issues we are facing on front lines. This short agenda should make the motions committee items a sure thing...wonder what will be brought to the floor then.

Should there have been a motion about bathroom usage in the Church of God?
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I'm more interested in how to minister to certain people who are in situations thst are new to culture.

For instance a woman who once was a man attended our church and a Unitarian Church. He/she was torn because he/she realized the mistake and wanted acceptance and victory over the consequential depression. We ministered to this person and made he/she feel welcome and not awkward. How does this person repent and is there a pathway to ministry for this person?

Another time we had a 7 year old girl who thought she should be a boy. Her liberal parents supported this, allowed her to dress like a boy and we're in beginning phase of hormone therapy research. Additionally they had no problem at all if this girl grew up to become a lesbian. I shared that this was incompatible with being a member and minister. I recommended Christian counseling so she could get to the root and embrace the person that God created her to be.

As far as bathrooms - a transgender person who truly looks the part likely has already been using restroom of choice. Now predators have governmental permission to join in.

These are issues that as a movement we are largely silent about, have zero resolutions on, and no supporting symposiums or materials to help us in the field. Hence I think it's a missed opportunity to clarify not only our stance but practical practices of ministry.

Tom Sterbens wrote:
Andy Stevens wrote:
I'm so shocked to see so little in our agenda. In an era of "gender confusion," transgenderism, etc I would have thought we might deal with current issues we are facing on front lines. This short agenda should make the motions committee items a sure thing...wonder what will be brought to the floor then.

Should there have been a motion about bathroom usage in the Church of God?
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I would love to hear the Soddy Daisy Prophet opine about transgenders using the restrooms. Acts-pert Poster
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Post Remember I said this JLarry
There is coming a day in the CoG that a minister cannot have certain credentials unless he has a "degree". I am all for more education but not to the extent that requires a degree to reach a certain level of ministry.

If this had been the case 100 years ago there would be no CoG. It is a miracle those ignorant preachers built such a church. Since they did not have proper credentials, they must have had some help.

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That we amend page 100, S22. ORDAINED BISHOP, II. QUALIFICATIONS OF ORDAINED BISHOPS, 2 by inserting the following after the word “ministry” on line 3: or he has three (3) years of active ministry accompanied by a ministry-related degree or its equivalency from an accredited institution or one certified by the Church of God Division of Education, So as to read:
An applicant for ordination as bishop may be ordained when he is twenty-five (25) years of age, provided he has had at least eight (Cool years of active ministry, or he has three (3) years of active ministry accompanied by a ministry-related degree or its equivalency from an accredited institution or one certified by the Church of God Division of Education, or when he is thirty
(30) years of age, provided he has had at least five (5) years of active ministry, if he is otherwise qualified.

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Post Carolyn Smith
So there's really no discussion about the proposal to allow ordained ministers (including women) to vote in the General Council? Or am I misunderstanding that?
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Post Re: Remember I said this Old Time Country Preacher
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There is coming a day in the CoG that a minister cannot have certain credentials unless he has a "degree". I am all for more education but not to the extent that requires a degree to reach a certain level of ministry.

If this had been the case 100 years ago there would be no CoG. It is a miracle those ignorant preachers built such a church. Since they did not have proper credentials, they must have had some help.

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That we amend page 100, S22. ORDAINED BISHOP, II. QUALIFICATIONS OF ORDAINED BISHOPS, 2 by inserting the following after the word “ministry” on line 3: or he has three (3) years of active ministry accompanied by a ministry-related degree or its equivalency from an accredited institution or one certified by the Church of God Division of Education, So as to read:
An applicant for ordination as bishop may be ordained when he is twenty-five (25) years of age, provided he has had at least eight (Cool years of active ministry, or he has three (3) years of active ministry accompanied by a ministry-related degree or its equivalency from an accredited institution or one certified by the Church of God Division of Education, or when he is thirty
(30) years of age, provided he has had at least five (5) years of active ministry, if he is otherwise qualified.



Dr. JL, son, ya gotta read the proposal real close. It don’t require a OB applicant to have a college degree. The amendment states that a applicant for OB has gotta have several things:

1. 25 years of age
2. 8 years of active ministry “OR” 3 years of active ministry “AND” a ministry related accredited degree

So, if a feller has got 8 years a active ministry he can become a OB without graduatin the 8th Grade.
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Post OTCP JLarry
I suppose I should be (at my age) honored to be called, son.

I read it close.

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2. 8 years of active ministry “OR” 3 years of active ministry “AND” a ministry related accredited degree

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So there's really no discussion about the proposal to allow ordained ministers (including women) to vote in the General Council? Or am I misunderstanding that?


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Post Carolyn, Christopher Stephenson
It is item eight, on page two. Friendly Face
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I feel "led" to bump this thread. Cool [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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I feel "led" to bump this thread. Cool


A rhyme in time, that fits the mit. Cool
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Post Re: Remember I said this Cojak
JLarry wrote:
There is coming a day in the CoG that a minister cannot have certain credentials unless he has a "degree". I am all for more education but not to the extent that requires a degree to reach a certain level of ministry.

If this had been the case 100 years ago there would be no CoG. It is a miracle those ignorant preachers built such a church. Since they did not have proper credentials, they must have had some help.

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That we amend page 100, S22. ORDAINED BISHOP, II. QUALIFICATIONS OF ORDAINED BISHOPS, 2 by inserting the following after the word “ministry” on line 3: or he has three (3) years of active ministry accompanied by a ministry-related degree or its equivalency from an accredited institution or one certified by the Church of God Division of Education, So as to read:
An applicant for ordination as bishop may be ordained when he is twenty-five (25) years of age, provided he has had at least eight (Cool years of active ministry, or he has three (3) years of active ministry accompanied by a ministry-related degree or its equivalency from an accredited institution or one certified by the Church of God Division of Education, or when he is thirty
(30) years of age, provided he has had at least five (5) years of active ministry, if he is otherwise qualified.


Yep, no matter how you spin it, it has been headed that way for many years Bro Larry, and YES eventually the other qualifiers will be dropped, or at least that is MO also.
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