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Waambulance Man

Disappearing Act?

Hey, DOC Posts: 94 **4/6/19 10:00 am**

I noticed a church plant that had been really hyped in Illinois is suddenly just gone. Every mention and photo of this plant in Moline has been erased from memory. The Illinois face book page and website have been scrubbed and I tried talking with pastors and no one is saying a word. State Council members have said they cannot talk about it. One former pastor said that the church is no more and almost $40,000 was wasted on this church with nothing to show for the investment after a year. Something sure seems wrong here.

Tom Sterbens

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4507 **4/6/19 10:25 am**

What is/was the name of the church?

Darrell Garrett

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5329 **4/6/19 10:42 am**

I was asked about this church a few weeks ago myself and was unaware that it was gone. It was in Moline, IL but I don't know the name of the church. I do not know this to be fact, but I was told by someone who was attending the church that the couple who had planted the church just left with no warning and without telling the AB and that no one knew they were gone for more than a month that they were gone. It's a shame because by all accounts the plant was going pretty well.

Cojak

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24275 **4/6/19 12:18 pm**

Don't you just love a mystery? Shocked

Is it necessary? The mystery I mean? Shocked

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roughridercog

Case of the disappearing church?

Acts Mod Posts: 25306 **4/6/19 8:27 pm**

Call Scooby Do and the gang.

I wonder if David Copperfield could make a church and all that money disappear.

Okay, maybe the money.

The solution is simple. Someone needs to follow the money trail. An audit perhaps?
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Get a rope Posts: 181 **4/8/19 6:50 am**

I will put them in the bear cage, I tell you what. So who is gonna answer for this? Or is it gonna be swept under the rug?
I'm keepin the bear hungry just in case it's needed.
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Hey, DOC Posts: 65 **4/9/19 12:33 am**

Another sad day. Planting is more difficult than most people think. Especially in an area that no one even knows what the COG is. Iâ€™m glad the COG tried. I wonder how much Training the planter had? If it is true that the State invested that much in a planter they did not know would leave you scratching your head. I assuming he was not a native son of the state.

roughridercog

Acts Mod Posts: 25306 **4/9/19 6:48 am**

Waambulance Man

Hey, DOC Posts: 94 **4/9/19 2:28 pm**

Nature Boy Florida

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16619 **4/9/19 3:29 pm**

Somebody get the names and city / state of this problem.

What would be wrong with telling what happened? For goodness sake - at least let the $40,000 spent be a teaching moment - do a post-mortem on what happened, what went right, what went wrong, what caused the ultimate failure, what cold we have done differently to potentially keep this from failing? Surely there must be lessons that every state planter/state office could learn from, right?

Am I the only one that sees this?
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Darrell Garrett

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5329 **4/9/19 7:26 pm**

cogcia

Friendly Face Posts: 122 **4/9/19 9:15 pm**

Unless there was something the state did wrong why would you not put the cards on the table. If you donâ€™t talk about it in light it will be talked about with misinformation.
The Midwest is full of great cities that has no COG presents. Not sure bringing southern guys would be as effective as raising up local sons, but local sons get no respect in many areas. What works in Atlanta may not in Chicago Or what works in Birmingham may not work in Moline. Iâ€™ve seen the AG be effective at raising up local sons and daughters.

Nature Boy Florida

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16619 **4/10/19 1:23 pm**

Darrell Garrett

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5329 **4/10/19 2:11 pm**

I have no dog in this hunt, but I want to interject that to say $40K was embezzled is not accurate. The money (at least from what I know) was spent in the plant effort, but for whatever reason, the church planter walked away, abandoning the plant thereby killing it. We might say the money was wasted or even accuse that it was misused, (no evidence of that) but to say it was just taken is incorrect.

Nature Boy Florida

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16619 **4/10/19 2:18 pm**

Darrell Garrett

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5329 **4/10/19 3:43 pm**

I see your point completely. Just wanted to make clear that no one was accusing this family of embezzling. Thanks for clarifying your point.

roughridercog

After reading every entry in this thread

Acts Mod Posts: 25306 **4/12/19 7:10 am**

I'm forced to ask.
Why not be transparent about the entire thing? Why try to hide it? Is transparency that terrifying? Are they afraid it will lower the amount of monies coming in for home missions.
In my opinion, I can respect someone making a mistake, owning it, and taking steps to see it will never happen again.
But hiding it like so much dirt under the carpet? That speaks of purposeful cover up. I find nothing worthy of respect in that at all.
Just my opinion.
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Darrell Garrett

Re: After reading every entry in this thread

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5329 **4/12/19 9:37 am**

Cojak

Re: After reading every entry in this thread

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24275 **4/12/19 10:34 am**

Rick Whitter

Hey, DOC Posts: 54 **4/12/19 10:56 pm**

Folks, there is no cover up. In the interest of the good of the church planter involved (he and his family have been through enough), I will say, no one has asked me (State Administrative Bishop) about this failed church plant. No one. The plant did not succeed. We have voluntarily communicated the turn of events with donors and with State leaders. Other than that, there is little to share. The church planter worked hard and tried but felt that the situation was not possible. And, by the way, the 40K figure is nonsense. The state invested about $5,000 in this project. Perhaps more money was contributed but not from our budget. Unfortunately, the plant did not succeed. There are no hard feelings and no one is to blame. The plan is to continue the efforts to plant new churches in Moline and across the State.

For those who are so concerned about the fate of this church plant, perhaps the Lord is calling you to invest in a new church. If so, contact me at rickwhitter@gmail.com or on my cell at 561 267-2967.

I do not frequent this site so please ask question to me directly.

Thanks, God bless!