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If Kevin Wallace came back would you vote for him for General Overseer?

Friendly Face Posts: 165 **7/2/18 10:50 am**

I know its hypothetical but what if:

the COG gave women full AB allowance and they could vote and serve and because of that KW came back to the COG.

Would you vote for him or not?

MegaBoss

Kevin Wallace for GO

Member Posts: 34 **7/2/18 11:34 am**

Absolutely Not!
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Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16617 **7/2/18 3:34 pm**

Depends on if he wanted the job.

Again - some folks are too valuable doing what they are doing to be overseer - the way the COG is set up now.
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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12792 **7/2/18 4:51 pm**

As much as like Kevin, I donâ€™t believe he would be a viable candidate for GO.

Aaron Scott

Some thoughts...

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6032 **7/2/18 6:22 pm**

First, Kevin Wallace would have eventually almost certainly have become the General Overseer. Barring any missteps, I imagine his name would have become as well-known as anyone out there.

But there are a couple of reasons I would hesitate about making him General Overseer at this point....

First, I would like to see him have more age and experience. Even if he were still in the COG, I would think that 45 or so is an age where a lot of experience meets a lot of energy.

Second, I think that if he returned--especially so quickly--it would call into question his judgement. Someone would say, "He must not have really though things through--and we need overseers that will think things through."

Now, if after a while he returns to the COG (see Jentzen Franklin), and especially if he does it in a way that stands him in good stead, it can open doors for him in a way that his name is again one of the most recognized names in the Church of God.

Lastly, it IS hard to leave and come back. We might be a forgiving people, but we aren't very good at forgetting. And if we think someone left us (even though Bro. Wallace indicated that he had sound reasons), it can feel a bit like rejection or divorce. And not everyone can bounce back very easily.

A good PR counselor could almost certainly give him some wise advice on how to "come back home."

I will say that I very much hated to lose him. He was one of the only preachers of that younger generation (at least younger for me) that truly could preach in a way that bridged the generational divide. I imagine older ministers saw him as a sort of Ray H. Hughes...and younger ministers saw him as cutting-edge. I know my dad really liked his preaching (I doubt I have heard more than 10 minutes of him preaching, but it was outstanding.0

Carolyn Smith

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5909 **7/2/18 9:30 pm**

1) I don't think that's why Kevin Wallace left the COG.
2) It seems pretty clear he is doing quite well without us.
3) Never mind, I'm just a woman, I can't vote anyhow, even if I was credentialed, which I'm not. Laughing

Aprilmay, you really seem to enjoy stirring the pot.

BTW, did you know that KW's church is still donating to Alma's Closet for the GA, even though they are no longer associated with the COG? Their goal is to send 250 pieces of clothing for Alma's Closet (new clothes to go to missionaries in need of clothing for the GA.) That seems kinda classy to me.
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georgiapath

Acts-dicted Posts: 7586 **7/3/18 4:48 am**

I dont think that's why he left either.

He recently spoke at "The Church at Liberty Square" in Cartersville, he seems to just go and do whatever, whereever. whenever. Super guy doing great things for people.

Mat

Leadership from outside?

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1979 **7/3/18 6:31 am**

It has crossed the minds of some denominations to bring leadership from outside the organization, or bring back a "son" of the church who may have left and been successful. There are some reasons on both sides of the issues as to why its not good for the denomination or the individual.

There is a great cost in leaving a denomination and becoming independent. Why would a successful minister want to pay that cost, than "give" what the Lord has blessed him with to a denomination he felt he needed to leave in the first place.

On the denomination's side of the issue, its not just the memory and feelings of loss from the "break-up", its the message it would send. Its much like the message when the denomination promotes independent ministries and speakers at assemblies. The average "Joe Pastor" will sit there, see how the denominational leaders promote the independent minister as an example they wish all their pastors would follow. Joe Pastor may think to himself, maybe I need to be independent of the "weight" of the denomination to be successful. Or, maybe if I leave, I will be invited back as a leader someday.

Is there really a good reason for a successful independent pastor to join a denomination now a days? Denominational leaders are kidding themselves if they think there are such churches/ministers lining up to be under their leadership and pay their salary.

Mat

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Hill-billy

Hill-billy · Member Posts: 27 **7/3/18 12:51 pm**

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aprilmay2.0

im not stirring anything

Friendly Face Posts: 165 **7/3/18 2:05 pm**

I'm simply starting conversation. I haven't heard anything about Kevin coming back or do i think he will come back. I was just asking.

But the conversation brings a bigger question about us as a denomination and our reluctance to trust and forgive.

Restorationman

Kevin Wallace General overseer

Friendly Face Posts: 484 **7/3/18 6:41 pm**

I know for a fact that Dr. Hill was just saying that
he Was just trying to continue a spirit of worship in that state meeting
Also, Justin Sharp Didnâ€™t go to Michigan until they pretty much cut out most of the salary.

Hill-billy

Re: Kevin Wallace General overseer

Hill-billy · Member Posts: 27 **7/3/18 8:58 pm**

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Restorationman

Kevin Wallace General Overseer

Restorationman · Friendly Face Posts: 484 **7/4/18 12:11 am**

No Bull the truth and there are other ways to raise funds like some of the previous Youth Directors who evangelized as well. However, Rather than criticize why donâ€™t you pray for them that God will help them make an eternal impact on students in that region.

Restorationman

Re: Kevin Wallace General Overseer

Friendly Face Posts: 484 **7/4/18 12:12 am**

Restorationman

Kevin Wallace General Overseer

Friendly Face Posts: 484 **7/4/18 12:22 am**

Sorry I Put this in Quotes under my post. However, it was an accident.

Hill-billy

Hill-billy · Member Posts: 27 **7/4/18 10:09 am**

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Restorationman

Kevin Wallace GO

Friendly Face Posts: 484 **7/4/18 2:57 pm**

The Present youth director in Michigan had a wonderful youth group. Also, in Tennessee and a couple other places as well as being youth pastor at the Summington COG in Alabama. However, since you are so adamant against this brother why donâ€™t you call him up and do Matthew 18 and get it straightened out. I Would love to see you all pray for one another to reach students for the kingdom of God!

Hill-billy

Re: Kevin Wallace GO

Hill-billy · Member Posts: 27 **7/4/18 3:20 pm**

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Restorationman

Kevin Wallace

Friendly Face Posts: 484 **7/4/18 4:07 pm**

Again,contact the folks that you feel have wronged you and try to work it out.
I believe if you would do that with a geniuine spirit and share your offense you could forget about it and move on to what God has for you. The spirit of offense really only bothers you and thatâ€™s not good for the ministry God has given you.