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Dean Steenburgh

Christians who kill themselves (L)

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 **5/19/18 7:40 pm**

https://www.crosswalk.com/video-q-a/if-a-christian-commits-suicide-do-they-still-go-to-heaven.html

I've had the difficult conversation with far too many over the last few years.
20 years ago it was hardly ever an event but nowadays it is more common ...sad.
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Cojak

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24275 **5/19/18 9:47 pm**

Most of us have thought of this over and over. My take is GOD is love. He is a wonderful and caring father. He sees much deeper than we do.

One of the wisest people I have ever known and a Christian was my Mother. "Will I go to Hell?" I asked after yet another 'Revival and My salvation... again'.

"I know your heart son, I would never hurt you." stopping to look this 12 year old in the eye, "God is your heavenly FAther, he is a good father and would never hurt his children. Who goes to hell? Son only God decides that, but remember, He loves and cares for his children."

"One day you may be a father and know the love for your children, then you may understand how God can put up with us."

I have always thought someone committing suicide is not in their right mind and not responsible for their actions. Right of wrong that has been my feelings.
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Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12792 **5/19/18 10:39 pm**

The great thing about eternal securityâ€”itâ€™s truly unconditional.

Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12792 **5/19/18 10:51 pm**

When I was a backslidden drunk at age 21, lost as the proverbial goose in a snowstorm, at the end of my rope emotionally, I anonymously called a Baptist pastor and asked him, â€œIf I kill myself, where will I end up, in Heaven or in Hell?â€ He replied, â€œThat depends on whether or not youâ€™re saved.â€

While his logic was certainly consistent with his doctrine, I for one am so glad I wasnâ€™t persuaded. Who wouldnâ€™t prefer the beauty of Heaven over alcoholism and severe depression with suicidal thoughts? All these nearly 30 years later, I still donâ€™t regret deciding he was wrong and that deciding not to end it all was the right choice.

I had a first cousin who committed suicide at age 18. His mother still grieves the loss to this day, even though she believes he went to Heaven.

I do believe a good argument can be made that in cases where one has lost oneâ€™s mind, God knows all things, and will certainly take that into account when judging our lives. I knew of a man once who started behaving radically out of character for him. He eventually successfully took his own life. Upon autopsy, it was found that he had been suffering from a terrible brain-wasting disease, the symptoms of which perfectly accounted for his bizarre behavior prior to his death. It is hard to imagine that God would not consider such mitigating factors in such cases.

Eddie Robbins

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 **5/20/18 7:38 am**

Believers in Christ go to Heaven. I see NO difference in the man who pulls the trigger and ends it all and the man who eats himself to death.

Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12792 **5/20/18 10:23 am**

Personal responsibility, yes. A lady unintentionally running over and killing a child who darted out into the street before she could stop is really a murderer, right?

Eddie Robbins

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 **5/20/18 12:57 pm**

Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12792 **5/20/18 1:22 pm**

A lot of folks are obese due to ignorance. Very few intend to eat themselves to death.

Eddie Robbins

Eddie Robbins · Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 **5/20/18 4:28 pm**

Aaron Scott

I watched a movie that (I eventually found out) was about Carlton Pearson....

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6032 **5/20/18 4:31 pm**

In an attempt to defend his view (even though I'm pretty sure that no one here agrees with him), he said something that not only made sense, but gave me pause: "Are we more merciful than God?"

Would you or I forgive someone who, obviously in a state of mind that is not at all at their best, takes their life to somehow end the pain? I would forgive that person.

Would you or I forgive someone who, tormented by enormous pain, or the onward creep of utter dementia, takes their life? I would.

Or what about the person who (to use an extreme) was captured by ISIS and, rather than say something that would hurt their reputation...or rather than endure the horrific torture that might come with it all...chose to kill themselves? I'd forgive that person.

We are NEVER GOING TO BE more merciful than a God Who would give His Only Son to rescue the very ones that spit in His Son's face, that plucked out His beard, that demanded His death.

We aren't even on the same planet with that sort of mercy. And if God will do that for SINNERS, how much more will He do it for those who have tried to follow Him?

I dare say that we preach a lot of things that we heard...but we didn't read in the Bible. I don't think Samson went to hell--after all, God actually empowered him to kill himself (along with a few thousand others at the same time). It might be that we base everything on our notion of what happened to Judas?

Quiet Wyatt

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12792 **5/20/18 5:24 pm**

demon hunter

Friendly Face Posts: 252 **5/31/18 2:44 pm**

I've enjoyed reading the replies on this as to the different thoughts of suicide and eternity.

The only reply that I've ever gave to a hurting loved one after one of theirs has commited suicide is that, we do know that they are in the hands of a merciful, loving God...
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Cojak

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24275 **5/31/18 9:43 pm**