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OTCP or others, a question about accredited schools |
Preacher777 |
I remember checking for accredited schools versus those that were accredited by some Bible group that was not recognized by other schools many years ago. When offering advice to a young person I encourage him or her to attend an accredited school. Since my personal search was many years ago what are the present legitimate accrediting agencies for an undergraduate, master or doctorate degree? Is there a list you can copy/paste or a source we can look up online?
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Friendly Face Posts: 434 2/12/18 7:05 am
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I had a conversation once in the founding president of the Asian Theological Association, which accredits seminaries and Bible Schools in Asia. He listed off the different accreditation associations. There was another one that accredited the liberal seminaries in Asia, whose name I forget. ATA even accredited some seminaries in the US, like some Korean language. schools.
The Association of Theological Schools accredited a lot of the seminaries, Assemblies of God Theological Seminary and Pentecostal Theological seminary. But they also accredit Dallas Theological Seminary and Harvard Divinity School.
There is also the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools. I got the impression from him that this was not as prestigious as the ATA accreditation. I mentioned Luther Rice had TRACS accreditation, and he said they were one of the better TRACS schools.
You do realize, don't you, that as new schools form, they have to go through a multi-year process to get accredited. I am an accreditation coordination for one type of accreditation (not theology) at my university, and I am on a committee for another type of accreditation. I am rather junior in my career for either role, but I'm in Asia and it's a different ball game out here.
You start out with an application to be considered for accreditation, and then there is a multi-year process that might take five years before they are ready to consider you accredited. If you demonize non-accredited programs, you are opposing the founding and growth of new schools in a way, since schools start out unaccredited, at least by theological accreditation bodies.
There are also regional forms of accreditation. But again, we are talking about a long and tedious process. With the two programs I work with, the regional accreditation body's application is probably a lot more involved and more tedious than the other, though putting together the applications is certainly no piece of cake. Fortunately, I did not have to do much of the writing by myself. I wrote up one section for one accreditation application, but mostly editted the other. It looks like I will have to do a lot more writing and revising going forward. _________________ Link |
Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 2/12/18 12:25 pm
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Link wrote: | You do realize, don't you, that as new schools form, they have to go through a multi-year process to get accredited. I am an accreditation coordination for one type of accreditation (not theology) at my university, and I am on a committee for another type of accreditation. I am rather junior in my career for either role, but I'm in Asia and it's a different ball game out here.
You start out with an application to be considered for accreditation, and then there is a multi-year process that might take five years before they are ready to consider you accredited. If you demonize non-accredited programs, you are opposing the founding and growth of new schools in a way, since schools start out unaccredited, at least by theological accreditation bodies. |
It's a cost of doing business and a necessary barrier to entry. There are surely unaccredited schools where one could receive an excellent education, but if a student wants to be sure his/her education is legitimate and that his/her degree will be respected, he/she needs to attend an accredited school.
The reason for this, of course, is the untold numbers of charlatans who are providing woefully substandard education and giving degrees for it. I think you should blame them for the challenges faced by up and coming schools, not the people who are rightfully encouraging new students to go to an accredited school. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 13654 2/12/18 12:32 pm
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Dave Dorsey wrote: | untold numbers of charlatans who are providing woefully substandard education and giving degrees for it. |
Herein lies the problem, especially at the doctoral level. When ya got COG preacher boys what use the title "Dr" based on a "docterate" from schools like Internationial Seminary in Plymouth FL or Covington Seminary in Rossville, GA, son its a shame. |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15564 2/15/18 5:41 am
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Thanks Dave Dorsey and Brotherjames |
Preacher777 |
I appreciate the references you posted in this thread. I am sure some unaccredited schools provide a solid education. However, I believe many accredited schools.do the same. I do my best to counsel young people as if I was talking to my own child.
Youth can love God, be excited but not see the big picture as to possible plans 10 or 20 years down the road concerning building upon an accredited degree, doors open in the church world but also with unsaved people who value education. I am Holy Spirit through and through and through. However, I teach that we don't need to lose some common sense and intellect to make room for the Holy Ghost! |
Friendly Face Posts: 434 2/15/18 8:58 am
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With all of that, |
brotherjames |
There are places for unaccredited schools who do provide quality education.
Case in point: our Bible College is unaccredited because of the horribly expensive and time consuming procedures needed not to mention restrictions or unnecessary requirements that are imposed upon us. However, our 3 yr program qualified any student for the Assemblies of God license to preach credential. We are an excellent low cost alternative if you are called to the ministry. Students can also take online courses if they wish to the the AG Global University in order to get a degree. We issue a certificate not a diploma and we have students in ministry all over the world after doing this for 14 yrs. It is an excellent bible, pastoral, worship oriented education but not suitable for much else. But, there is a place and great need for this. |
Acts-celerater Posts: 935 2/15/18 10:08 am
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Re: With all of that, |
Dave Dorsey |
brotherjames wrote: | We issue a certificate not a diploma and we have students in ministry all over the world after doing this for 14 yrs. It is an excellent bible, pastoral, worship oriented education but not suitable for much else. But, there is a place and great need for this. |
Agreed, and that's absolutely the way to do it. Provide a quality trade education and issue a certificate rather than a degree. It's a great way to make affordable, quality education available without calling it something that it isn't. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 13654 2/15/18 11:21 am
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Re: With all of that, |
Cojak |
brotherjames wrote: | There are places for unaccredited schools who do provide quality education.
Case in point: our Bible College is unaccredited because of the horribly expensive and time consuming procedures needed not to mention restrictions or unnecessary requirements that are imposed upon us. ... |
I only KNOW of this because a friend was involved in buying the 'Hundreds of books' required by 'accreditation groups??' for Lee College(University) to aid in qualifying for higher accreditation. In one incident in NYC they found many books they needed. The SELLER was asking thousands +thousands of $. The assisting buyer (my friend) said 'There is no one else bidding, let's offer <$. I am sure we can save the school some money.' The small committee said we will pay what is needed, no dickering, we MUST have these books.
Yes, from what I hear you are talking mega bucks to qualify for accreditation. _________________ Some facts but mostly just my opinion!
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