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Mat |
Here in South Carolina many of the churches (parishes) which were part of The Episcopal Church (TEC) withdrew from the national denomination, taking their buildings, dioceses offices and camp property (on Seabrook Island) with them. They, for the most part, dropped the use of he term "Episcopal" and have reverted to the use of "Anglican". Some of the issues regarding the brake away included same-sex marriage, ordination of homosexuals and abandonment of the Gospel for the Social Justice agenda. Many of the Anglican ministry who broke away from the national organization are "Spirit-filled", including their Bishop, and had to forfeit their retirement plans (in a separate civil case the Bishop is being sued by TEC for claiming to be the Bishop of the state dioceses and receiving funds intended for TEC).
Yesterday, the South Carolina Anglicans suffered a reversal in the State Supreme Court. Up until this ruling, those in South Carolina who left the national church had been able to keep their property. With this ruling a season of great uncertainty has come on those seeking to be faithful to the Bible (my opinion). The SC Court, made up of five judges, includes a woman who is a member of TEC and whose husband is part of their leadership and she did not recuse herself from the rulings.
This battle is revealing itself as struggle between "darkness" and "light". The national church (TEC) is known for their "scorched earth" approach to dealing with those who try to leave their ranks with property in hand. The good news is that the courts can take the property, but they can't take the soul. Here's a link to one of the news stories on the ruling.
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/state-supreme-court-rules-the-episcopal-church-can-reclaim-properties/article_260f5402-778c-11e7-8710-5facadfd7bca.html
Mat
PS I'm in a weekly prayer meeting with Spirit-filled pastors/ministers who are part of the Anglican group. There are my friends, but more than that, I discern a Spiritual hunger to hold to the Word of God. |
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8/4/17 8:21 am
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Cojak |
It appears the close connection with one side would give cause for protest, but that costs more money. I have never known much about other Protestant organizations, but just yesterday asked my wife as we passed the ancient Episcopal church here in Williamsburg, "I know we as the COG have not been consistent since our beginning, I wonder how consistent their faith has been since colonial days."
Funny you should bring this up! 
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| This prompted me to read the website for the local Anglican church, which was a surprise to me because they were Episcopal the last time I drove by. It seems they have broken with the Episcopal church and united with the Anglican. I am enjoying reading their information and blogs. I find I totally agree with them in most areas. Especially on divorce and remarriage (yes I see the irony in that they were started by a king because he wanted a divorce). One thing that struck me is their assertion that the evangelical church has lost the moral authority to complain about "biblical marriage" when they change spouses as often as they do cars. God bless their commitment to authentic Christianity and I pray that they will continue in the face of persecution from their own fellowship |
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8/4/17 10:59 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Mat wrote: | | The SC Court, made up of five judges, includes a woman who is a member of TEC and whose husband is part of their leadership and she did not recuse herself from the rulings. |
I bet she is a democrat too. |
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8/4/17 11:18 am
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| Re: Anglican vs Episcopal (Link) |
Mat |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Mat wrote: | | The SC Court, made up of five judges, includes a woman who is a member of TEC and whose husband is part of their leadership and she did not recuse herself from the rulings. |
I bet she is a democrat too. |
Worst, she is an Episcopal!
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8/4/17 11:24 am
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| During my heathen days in the early to mid 1980s, one of my best friends was Episcopalian. Judging by his description, that denomination has been as liberal as the day is long for decades. (My friend was himself a very proud liberal and libertine back then, by the way). Strange how the gay marriage issue was the proverbial last straw for so many in what seemed to be an otherwise strongly liberal denomination, both politically and theologically. |
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8/4/17 11:31 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Strange how the gay marriage issue was the proverbial last straw for so many in what seemed to be an otherwise strongly liberal denomination, both politically and theologically. |
Kinda like Romans 1, huh? |
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8/4/17 11:36 am
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| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | During my heathen days in the early to mid 1980s, one of my best friends was Episcopalian. Judging by his description, that denomination has been as liberal as the day is long for decades. (My friend was himself a very proud liberal and libertine back then, by the way). Strange how the gay marriage issue was the proverbial last straw for so many in what seemed to be an otherwise strongly liberal denomination, both politically and theologically. |
Well the site I'm reading isn't. They are strong pro-family, anti-abortion, pro biblical marriage, anti gay-church. I don't see any signs of liberalism at all. |
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8/4/17 11:37 am
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| UncleJD wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | During my heathen days in the early to mid 1980s, one of my best friends was Episcopalian. Judging by his description, that denomination has been as liberal as the day is long for decades. (My friend was himself a very proud liberal and libertine back then, by the way). Strange how the gay marriage issue was the proverbial last straw for so many in what seemed to be an otherwise strongly liberal denomination, both politically and theologically. |
Well the site I'm reading isn't. They are strong pro-family, anti-abortion, pro biblical marriage, anti gay-church. I don't see any signs of liberalism at all. |
Yes, I am aware that the ACNA is theologically conservative. I just never would have guessed there was such a thing as a conservative Episcopalian. |
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8/4/17 11:47 am
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| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | http://www.thedailybeast.com/anglicans-demote-episcopalians-as-global-christianity-gets-more-polarized |
Thanks. Interesting article though slanted heavily left by the obvious liberal leaning author. The "preposterous beliefs" line and hyper-link to a piece bashing Ben Carson is also telling. I am glad the Anglican church had the backbone to censure the Episcopals. |
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8/4/17 1:05 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
| I just found the article interesting. |
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8/4/17 1:32 pm
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UncleJD |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | I just found the article interesting. |
me too, good background on the situation (with the appropriate grain of salt) |
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8/4/17 1:55 pm
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Mat |
There will be a number of Anglicans who need a place to worship if the rulings hold up on appeal.
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8/4/17 3:11 pm
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Cojak |
| Mat wrote: | There will be a number of Anglicans who need a place to worship if the rulings hold up on appeal.
Mat |
Very good point Mat. You brought up a very interesting subject. I have never paid much attention to the Episcopal denomination, we did attend an Anglican church in Rondout Valley, NY once. A very worshipful church, friendly and dedicated it seemed. 
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