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Post I have salvation because God is good and I am good. Charles Page
I am born again because God is good and I am sanctified because I am good! In all things God remains good "all the time"!
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Post bonnie knox
Jesus is the vine. If you are not a branch connected to the vine, you are no good. If you are connected to the vine, all your sustenance comes from the vine.

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Post Charles Page
as a branch we have to be trimmed and pruned sometimes close to the trunk, our feeder source and are barely profitable. As a branch we can bear bad fruit and we need the skill of good husbandry. (Does that mean branches are female and their source is husbandry?)
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Post bonnie knox
"Husbandman" in John ch. 14 means the farmer who cares for the vineyard. Jesus says God the Father is the one who prunes the vines.
The point is if you have any goodness at all, it comes from being attached to the vine (Jesus).
Jesus said, "...[T]here is none good but one, that is, God." Mark 10:18

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as a branch we have to be trimmed and pruned sometimes close to the trunk, our feeder source and are barely profitable. As a branch we can bear bad fruit and we need the skill of good husbandry. (Does that mean branches are female and their source is husbandry?)
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Post Charles Page
the husbandman trims away the good he has automatically put into us. He trims away his good in order to get more of his good out of us!
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Everything one may receive from God is by grace through faith, not of works, lest any man should boast. If our hearts are pure/sanctified, it is only because we by faith receive God's promise of sanctification. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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Post Charles Page
that would be an acceptable answer if you believed that people not living sanctified lives have not God's grace flowing and are not born again. That is the answer consistent with Calvinism.
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Post bonnie knox
That's not scriptural.

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the husbandman trims away the good he has automatically put into us. He trims away his good in order to get more of his good out of us!
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Post That's not scriptural. Charles Page
exactly
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Post Resident Skeptic
We are not good.
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Post Charles Page
no not one
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Post Cojak
I am easily confused. I am a logical guy and for some reason contradictory statements are illogical.

If I am good, can I be 'not good' sometime?
If no one is good, can I be good all the time?

And then there is the NO NOT ONE again, am I in the middle of one of 'em straw men again? Confused
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Post Am I confused? Charles Page
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If you hold to original sin then none are good no not one

There is the view of deniers of original sin
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Post Re: Am I confused? Cojak
Charles Page wrote:
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If you hold to original sin then none are good no not one

There is the view of deniers of original sin


That is an absolute YES or NO! Confused
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Post Carolyn Smith
Cojak wrote:
I am easily confused. I am a logical guy and for some reason contradictory statements are illogical.

If I am good, can I be 'not good' sometime?
If no one is good, can I be good all the time?

And then there is the NO NOT ONE again, am I in the middle of one of 'em straw men again? Confused


Cojak, my friend, you are not the one confused here. Wink
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Post Charles Page
all are confused and come short of the glory of God!
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Post Re: I have salvation because God is good and I am good. bradfreeman
Charles Page wrote:
I am born again because God is good and I am sanctified because I am good! In all things God remains good "all the time"!


By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Heb 10:10

Jesus is my sanctification.

But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, so that, just as it is written, “Let him who boasts, boast in the Lord.” 1 Cor 1:30,31

I'm good because He's good.
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But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, so that, just as it is written, “Let him who boasts, boast in the Lord.” 1 Cor 1:30,31


That reminds me of a song one of our pastors taught us.
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/a/l/allineed.htm

Jesus Christ is made to me,
All I need, all I need,
He alone is all my plea,
He is all I need.

Refrain

Wisdom righteousness and pow’r,
Holiness forevermore,
My redemption full and sure,
He is all I need.

Jesus is my all in all,
All I need, all I need,
While He keeps I cannot fall,
He is all I need.

Refrain

He redeemed me when He died,
All I need, all I need,
I with Him was crucified,
He is all I need.

Refrain

Glory, glory to the Lamb,
All I need, all I need,
By His Spirit sealed I am,
He is all I need.

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