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Post When your wife does not share your burden. Resident Skeptic
Ministers, have you ever experienced a season where you felt a burden or leading from God in a particular area and your wife just did not feel it, and, furthermore, did not even seem interested in praying for God to show her?
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Just a thought. It might be you - not her. Perhaps that is where your prayers should be focused. She might just have gotten tired from the last "vision" you received that never came to fruition.

Perhaps God didn't confirm it to her - because you have missed it. Maybe there isn't anything to show.

My experience: When God talks to us - he is working on us - not our spouse. When He finally gets us ready - the spouse will be ready.
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Post Old Time Country Preacher
Nature Boy Florida wrote:
Just a thought. It might be you - not her. Perhaps that is where your prayers should be focused. She might just have gotten tired from the last "vision" you received that never came to fruition.

Perhaps God didn't confirm it to her - because you have missed it. Maybe there isn't anything to show.

My experience: When God talks to us - he is working on us - not our spouse. When He finally gets us ready - the spouse will be ready.



At sounds real good, NB, but son, at ain't always how it works. Sometimes a spouse just won't submit to God's will. When at happens, the minister must leave the spouse, divorce them, then marry someone who feels the same burden calling. At air is whats called a NEW SEASON. Laughing
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Post Resident Skeptic
Nature Boy Florida wrote:
Just a thought. It might be you - not her. Perhaps that is where your prayers should be focused. She might just have gotten tired from the last "vision" you received that never came to fruition.

Perhaps God didn't confirm it to her - because you have missed it. Maybe there isn't anything to show.

My experience: When God talks to us - he is working on us - not our spouse. When He finally gets us ready - the spouse will be ready.


I've given people the same advise. But do you feel what you describe is always the case? What if a man didn't have a past vision that never came to fruition? What if it is a situation where the wife is from a strict holiness legalism background and is afraid to break free from those parameters?
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Years after I left the ministry my wife confided that she had NEVER felt comfortable as a preacher's wife. She was/is one of the most godly women I know. She was not proud of how I left the preaching ministry, but was glad she was no longer a 'pastor's wife'.

I was so wrapped up in what I 'THOUGHT' was the will of God, I never asked her opinion. She was a dedicated wife and followed me in many occupations (IT appeared I could not hold a job).

She told me two 'successful' COG pastors wives confided to her, they felt the same, and their husbands were still pastoring. They were not happy.

We had a young pastor in Florida who pastored a large church and his wife went to the State Overseer and told him she was leaving her husband because he refused to quit pastoring. She divorced him and he married one of the members and is still pastoring the same church I understand.

I said that to say, If I had known my wife was miserable and did not see my goals, I would have modified them, my family is that important to me.
God, family, church or calling; would be my order of priorities. Cool
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It can happen both ways, where either spouse isn't really excited about another spouse' ministry, vision, etc. Outright opposition would be a lot more difficult to deal with.

I've experienced a couple of times where I believed the Lord wanted us to move to a particular place, and it takes my wife a while to hear or perceive that this is the Lord's will. It's happened in advance of the move, so it hasn't been a serious problem. It would be nice, though, if your partner says, "God just told me the same thing."

I know a couple who experienced that. They were both doctors in the UK. They flew to the US for something. The story went something like this. One said to the other, "I believe the Lord may be wanting us to move to America." And the other one said he or she just heard the Lord tell him/her the same thing. They gave up their medical careers, moved to the US and worked selling Amway and doing something with health insurance. The husband was in a venture to start an MLM company, the actual company, the last I heard. And they've helped plant numerous house churches along the way, including with people from their Amway downline.
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Post Something Keith Ivester said... Aaron Scott
I had always felt that my own spiritual experiences and ability were ahead of my wife's. Not that I didn't respect her views, but being older, having more experience, etc., I just felt that if we were in conflict spiritually, I was surely the one in the right.

Bro. Ivester was preaching in Live Oak and mentioned how he had learned to heed his wife's advice. He mentioned that if his wife indicated that she wasn't comfortable about a certain person, say, he listened carefully.

I don't recall all the particulars, but I felt like it was a word from the Lord for me to be more sensitive to my wife's take on things. For YEARS, I had wanted to pastor, but because I wasn't sure of my calling, and because my wife was fairly adamant that she did NOT want to be a pastor's wife (with ALL that comes with that!), I just did what my hands found to do, so to speak.

But when the Lord opened the door to pastor, my wife was EXCITED about the opportunity. Had it happened before then, it might not have been the Lord's best for us. But today I simply could not be an effective pastor without her. She is the one who organizes so much of what is done in terms of special Sundays, etc.

So, Resident, consider that while your vision may be true...there may be a timing issue that God is working on. If it is from God, then He will find a way to make things happen, I believe.
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Post Nature Boy Florida
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Nature Boy Florida wrote:
Just a thought. It might be you - not her. Perhaps that is where your prayers should be focused. She might just have gotten tired from the last "vision" you received that never came to fruition.

Perhaps God didn't confirm it to her - because you have missed it. Maybe there isn't anything to show.

My experience: When God talks to us - he is working on us - not our spouse. When He finally gets us ready - the spouse will be ready.



At sounds real good, NB, but son, at ain't always how it works. Sometimes a spouse just won't submit to God's will. When at happens, the minister must leave the spouse, divorce them, then marry someone who feels the same burden calling. At air is whats called a NEW SEASON. Laughing


You really listen to too many Paula White sermons old timer.
Need to cut back.
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You really listen to too many Paula White sermons old timer.
Need to cut back.


I remember the 78rpm records. We had several that were cracked. We called them broken records. Embarassed Shocked
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Post One Third of My Congregation Doesn't... FG Minister
One third of my congregation of 350 doesn't know who my wife is. My wife is a godly woman devoted to prayer, but she is not interested in fulfilling a traditional pastor's wife role. I have never forced her to do it. Early in our pastoral work (30 years ago) she served a stint as Ladies Ministries President, but with only 45 people there weren't many options. She didn't like being "up front." For the past 28 years she has served behind the scenes supporting me with her prayer life and counsel. I wouldn't have it any other way.

She sometimes feels guilty about it, but I tell her she gives me the best support I can ask for - prayer. No one in our present pastorate of 20 years has ever expected anything more from her. She has a full-time job in accounting and attends church and will be seen in the kitchen at funerals and other food events, but that is the extent of her public role.

She has even been invited to attend our church by people she has met at work and when she tells them she is my wife, they are shocked. Please note that we have two services so some people simply do not know people from the other service. Guys - PLEASE don't force your wife to be something she isn't. You will find a great deal of peace when this part of your marriage and ministry is settled.
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Post Re: When your wife does not share your burden. Quiet Wyatt
Resident Skeptic wrote:
Ministers, have you ever experienced a season where you felt a burden or leading from God in a particular area and your wife just did not feel it, and, furthermore, did not even seem interested in praying for God to show her?


Patience is always essential. I can say without a doubt that every single bad decision I've ever made in life has been due to a lack of patience on my part. I know folks like to kid about praying for patience, but it really is one of the very most essential things for a life that God can fully bless.

Having said that, I can say that yes, there have been times when I felt led in a certain direction while my wife did not. I found that with patient waiting on the Lord, eventually either she came to sense the same leading as I did, or I came to realize I was not being led in that direction by the Spirit of God, but by my own impulses.

There are, however, situations I've known of where either one spouse or the other simply rebelled and abandoned the other (and God) to follow their own selfish, carnal desires. In one instance, for example, a pastor's wife I know just wanted to go back to her former honky-tonkin', partyin', drinkin', immoral, sinful lifestyle, and did so, utterly breaking her husband's heart (and God's heart too). Sad thing is, she just about destroyed a godly man and his ministry in the process, with many assuming he bore some of the blame for the breakup of his marriage.
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Post Re: When your wife does not share your burden. Resident Skeptic
Quiet Wyatt wrote:
Resident Skeptic wrote:
Ministers, have you ever experienced a season where you felt a burden or leading from God in a particular area and your wife just did not feel it, and, furthermore, did not even seem interested in praying for God to show her?


Patience is always essential. I can say without a doubt that every single bad decision I've ever made in life has been due to a lack of patience on my part. I know folks like to kid about praying for patience, but it really is one of the very most essential things for a life that God can fully bless.

Having said that, I can say that yes, there have been times when I felt led in a certain direction while my wife did not. I found that with patient waiting on the Lord, eventually either she came to sense the same leading as I did, or I came to realize I was not being led in that direction by the Spirit of God, but by my own impulses.

There are, however, situations I've known of where either one spouse or the other simply rebelled and abandoned the other (and God) to follow their own selfish, carnal desires. In one instance, for example, a pastor's wife I know just wanted to go back to her former honky-tonkin', partyin', drinkin', immoral, sinful lifestyle, and did so, utterly breaking her husband's heart (and God's heart too). Sad thing is, she just about destroyed a godly man and his ministry in the process, with many assuming he bore some of the blame for the breakup of his marriage.


Many ministers I know still hold to the teaching that ultimately God holds the man responsible for the break-up of a marriage. Such nonsense.
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In the town where I pastor, the IPHC was pastored by a husband and wife. After several years, the husband decided he wanted to return to his former life of partying, divorced his wife, and built a house in town that is known to this day as "the party house." His poor ex-wife stayed true to the Lord and pastored that little church for many more years, right up until her death. I say she was a hero, but some would no doubt try to blame her for what her husband did. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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is there any such thing as an innocent party in a marriage breakup?
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Post Quiet Wyatt
Charles Page wrote:
is there any such thing as an innocent party in a marriage breakup?


Yes, according to Jesus and Paul there is.
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Charles Page wrote:
is there any such thing as an innocent party in a marriage breakup?


If you're asking are there any such thing as 2 perfect folk in a marriage, the answer is no.

But, there very well could be one spouse what done everything within their power to make it work, then the other one just walk off in sin.
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Charles Page wrote:
is there any such thing as an innocent party in a marriage breakup?



OTCP's answer is a good one.
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Post I've told a few young men... Clint Wills
I've had conversations with a few young men who feel like they have been chosen for vocational ministry about this very thing. I have told them, "your wife MUST come before vocational ministry, but your girlfriend does not! If your girlfriend isn't on board with being the wife of a pastor, then don't let her become your wife." Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology
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If the veils were lifted, you would realize many ministry couples are unequally yoked. Not in the broad sense of that phrase, but as it applies to ministry. Churches can devour pastors' wives. The expectations and demands on them are often greater than that of the pastor.

And let's face it. Ministers often subject their wives to a lack of stability and security. After a while, this instability can breed resentment. I have overheard conversations between my wife and other wives of pastors. There is often a common thread of discontentment with the church.

My wife attends our second service, but beyond that she doesn't take the lead in anything. She has no desire to be a prominent "First Lady" within the church. She loves our church and they love her, but she much prefers a behind-the-scenes role. Most of our close friends are not involved in ministry. We find that hanging out with preachers and their wives can be depressing. They can be a negative bunch! Laughing
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