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| Re: the poster boy of the COG may not be COG anymore |
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| aprilmay2.0 wrote: | things may be changing pretty soon. One of the premier COG churches may pull out of the denomination.
I guess some people get so big that they don't need their covering anymore. |
Thats it?
No description or nothing?
Saying something like this is kinda like saying the bank's interest rates are going to change ...sooner or later you're going to hit it right on the head.
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| Look for an announcement out of Chattanooga tomorrow morning from the big church with the big-time camp meeting speaker. |
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3/11/17 7:06 pm
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| Re: the poster boy of the COG may not be COG anymore |
bonnie knox |
Does this mean we will have to get another poster boy? If so, whom do you recommend?
| aprilmay2.0 wrote: | things may be changing pretty soon. One of the premier COG churches may pull out of the denomination.
I guess some people get so big that they don't need their covering anymore. |
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diakoneo |
| wahoo wrote: | | Look for an announcement out of Chattanooga tomorrow morning from the big church with the big-time camp meeting speaker. |
Ok, why? |
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3/11/17 8:16 pm
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| Does anyone want to make guesses on how many views this thread will get? |
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| bonnie knox wrote: | | Does anyone want to make guesses on how many views this thread will get? |
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| bonnie knox wrote: | | Does anyone want to make guesses on how many views this thread will get? |
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When you live under a rock, a post like this could be ??????? Well I know it ain't Wade Horton! 
Actually if someone is 'pulling out' and it is announced or someone KNOWS. what difference does a day make? I mean lots of folks read Acts, but it ain't the Washington Post..............................
I do not read the Chattanooga news paper!  I know that is hard to believe! 
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| Re: the poster boy of the COG may not be COG anymore |
Dean Steenburgh |
| Tom Sterbens wrote: | | aprilmay2.0 wrote: |
I guess some people get so big that they don't need their covering anymore. |
Don't even know where to begin here...
I guess first would be the horrible leap to a conclusion that the only reason for leaving the COG would be because a person concludes they don't need "covering." And for what it's worth the whole notion of "covering" seems conveniently overcooked whenever necessary - notwithstanding the fact it was pretty much done away with at the protestant reformation. But I digress...
And then there is always my favorite one:
How people will make gutless, disparaging remarks about a person's character from behind the veil of a pen name. Seriously..........?? |
Well spoken Tom!
I've never mentioned this part about my tenure in the CoG but when I was 23 & pastoring my first CoG church, my best friend (22 years old) & I were given permission to merge the two tiny churches (located in the same area) & I became the associate pastor since his building was much bigger, he had a few more people & we were right smack dab in the middle of town. After 2 years our little band of 80 people grew to over 400 & the two guys who merged were now 25 & 24 years old.
We began to run into some major road blocks & a plan was developed by the 12 men on our pastor's council to consider giving up our beautiful location & to leave the CoG.
Things happened & we eventually left in December 1984.
I stayed there until the Spring of 1992 & was very glad to be a part of a church that grew to over 1,300 in attendance on a consistent basis.
The year after I left my friend resigned & the current pastor who is there now was elected to lead the congregation. Under his leadership the church grew to well over 4,000 & today it is a leading church in the community.
I mention this because had we hunkered down & listened to bad advice, I sincerely doubt we would have seen the hundreds of families that we saw come to the Lord & nor would we have seen the many people called to ministry as we did.
It was a God thing but people made it very messy for awhile.
I came back to the CoG in 2000 & I'm pastoring a church with no intentions of ever leaving this denomination.
It's kind of funny to me how we look at it as a negative thing when it's very possible that God has a major plan to do a wonderful thing, if we let Him.
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3/11/17 10:38 pm
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I have said many times on this forum. Here I learn. Folks can laugh or scorn.
but I can read a post one way and have a mind-set. Then commenters come in with new data or an angle I have never considered, and change my thinking SOME. There are times it changes my mind a LOT.
I really try to be open minded about a post, but there are times once a post gets footing and takes off there are times, I realize, 'Hey the dude has a point, one I had not considered.'
We are in this way for a cause, that cause is out Lord. We can forget that at times, if we are not careful!
You can point at men who have gotten too big (in their own minds), Earl Paulk JR is one. YOu can see across the landscape where men reach out and win souls and make disciples.
Anyway, I just wanted to say, we have read some good comments on this thread. No matter it's intent, if it was nefarious. (Is that a good word?)
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Good night all, hope you have adjusted your clocks... We are headed for Sanford, Riverwalk COG in the AM.
God Bless and Good night.
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Do COG folks believe in the 'covering' doctrine now?
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| Re: the poster boy of the COG may not be COG anymore |
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| aprilmay2.0 wrote: | things may be changing pretty soon. One of the premier COG churches may pull out of the denomination.
I guess some people get so big that they don't need their covering anymore. |
You can't be a Christian and pull out of the denomination, can you?
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Well, there is covering and there is covering. Some people who like to wax sentimental about belonging to THE denomination will carry on about the organization offering "covering" to churches. Most usually this is stated by officials whose livelihood depends on the strength of the organization. In aprilmay's case, one never knows exactly where the snark might have been directed in a statement like "too big for their covering." It could be a euphemism for "too big for his britches."
As far as the doctrines believed by the church folk, there seems to be a considerable "trickle down" from TV preachers.
| Link wrote: | | Do COG folks believe in the 'covering' doctrine now? |
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Mike Chapman and City Church?
Just a guess.
Kind of like the identity of the "big" churches about to affiliate with Cleveland.
I don't doubt it, just that no one wants to identify them. 
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MartyBaker |
| sheepdogandy wrote: | Mike Chapman and City Church?
Just a guess.
Kind of like the identity of the "big" churches about to affiliate with Cleveland.
I don't doubt it, just that no one wants to identify them. |
It's not Mike Chapman. Brother Mike is in the processing of retiring and his son, Shannon is leading the charge. Shannon is doing a great job.
City Church is an amazing congregation. Their new building is beautiful. Make plans to stop and see it when you are near Chattanooga.
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Tom Sterbens |
| aprilmay2.0 wrote: |
Hey Tom. If you don't like pen names go join the excellent pastor group on FB. But I doubt you'll find the level of transparency there that you do here. This is actscelerate. We have pen names. Pen names are a decision of the authority of Actscelerate. If pen names bother you perhaps you should pull out of the Actscelerate church. |
I've always found some degree of mutual exclusion when using the terms "transparent" and "anonymous" in the same sentence.
Nonetheless, the counsel you have given is good. Sincerely.
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