Actscelerate.com

Carolyn Smith

Re: Point of "clarification?"

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5910 **9/22/16 5:52 pm**

Link

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **9/24/16 7:53 pm**

I don't usually watch Perry Stone. I first heard of him maybe 10 years ago during one of my trips to the US mainland because my brother-in-law is a fan. Perry stone was selling or giving away something, I think it was a star of David with a cross on the bottom, that supposedly someone found a picture of at a first century site in Jerusalem.

A scholarly type friend of mine who studied in Israel said the idea that that was a first century symbol was proven to be a hoax. The t-cross as a Christian symbol and the star of David as the symbol for all of Judaism both came later, so it is not suprising that it was a hoax. The chi-rho is older, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus had been crucified on an X-shaped cross. It fits the archeologial evidence better, IMO.

I've seen bits and pieces of Perry Stone, and I drove from North Georgia to Macon once with my wife because we heard he was down there when I was in Georgia for a while. I don't remember him saying anything too over the top there, but I have on TV.

On TV once, he kept talking about... I think it was a dream or vision of a black oil tornado. Looking back, with BP spill, which as a massive environmental thing, and the fact that dreams can be metaphorical, that was pretty interesting. But when he interpreted his dream, he kept saying he thought it was going to be some kind of nuclear explosion or something really sensational like that. It seemed like he might be saying the Lord was showing him there was going to be this big explosion in the Guft. I think a lot of viewers could leave with the impression that he was saying that God was saying there would be a nuclear explosion in the Gulf or something really, really big like that.

I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that he had a legitimate revelatory dream that actually pointed to the events that took place. But the way he put his own interpretation and theories on it, and speculated led to a lot of other conclusions.

I watched Perry Stone's TV show briefly once, and he was talking about Hell. He told a story about Jaque Cousteau's brother diving underneath the Burmuda triangle to some pyramids down there, and hearing the horrific cries of Hell. Perry reported or theorized that there were gates to Hell, under the earth, where people could hear the screams.

There seems to be a growth of conspiracy theories out there these days. I know a couple of people who like to repeat this stuff. It annoys and concerns me. Usually conspiracy theories do 'research' to find theories out. The evidence seems to be YouTube videos that don't cite sources, or tenuous conclusions drawn from those sources. I think preachers need to have a good 'filter' in how they interpret information and not fan the flames for those who are overly suspicious.

Also, what type of stuff are we supposed to do in ministry? The things spoken and sung about should be revelation and edification. We either talk about God's already revealed word, or what God is revealing. God could make manifest the secrets of one's heart through prophecy, and the Bible shows us that that is acceptable in church (I Corinthians 14.) But we shouldn't share wild speculation in church that has no basis in revelation from God. And if we do share revelation, we shouldn't hype it up with wildly speculative interpretations and possibly blur the line between what is revelation and what is speculation.
_________________
Link

Cojak

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24277 **9/24/16 9:45 pm**

doyle

Any poster can disagree with what somebody said

Acts-celerate Owner Posts: 6957 **9/27/16 6:21 am**

It s completely in order for posters to review, challenge and cretique what someone publishes, states publicly or promotes on their website, That goes for Perry too.

However, we do not allow personal attacks. One can disagree with what someone says, without making personal attacks. One poster in particular
claimed that Perry gets his inspiration from Jim Beam. He posted a large photo of a Jim Beam bottle.

We have not identified the one making that post, but it has been deleted. That is why some of you did not see the Jim Beam bottle.

I like Perry, always have and still do. I admire his success in the Lord's work. He certainly has reached a lot of people. I wish all of us could reach that many people, but what Perry publishes is open for discussion.

Doyle
_________________
The largest room in the world is the room for improvement.

diakoneo

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 **9/28/16 5:47 pm**

bonnie knox

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **9/28/16 6:01 pm**

The post with the picture of the whiskey has been deleted, but the administrators/moderators are not saying here in this thread who the person was who initially made the post (even though they know and anyone who read the thread while that post was up knows).
Hope that helps.

diakoneo

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 **9/28/16 11:42 pm**

bonnie knox

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **9/29/16 7:08 am**