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Polling by Boston-based Emerson College has returned from its summer hiatus, and its surveys of three key states—while confirming Hillary Clinton’s edge in the presidential race—underscore the obstacles she faces.
•She and Donald Trump are tied in Ohio at 43%, no surprise given that the state is a perennial battleground•Clinton has a slight edge in Pennsylvania, 46%-43%, giving credence to Trump’s focus on that state as a potential cornerstone to his White House bid
•Most surprising is Clinton’s relatively slim lead—45%-40%—in Michigan, which at this stage in the last two presidential campaigns had ceased to be competitive
•The three states together total 54 electoral votes; support from independents is fueling Trump in two of them •In Ohio, the Emerson poll shows him with a 13-point lead among these voters—47% to 30%—and in Pennsylvania, he leads 43%-37%
•That pattern hasn’t surfaced yet in Michigan, where the poll shows a virtual tie among independents, with Trump at 39% and Clinton at 38%•What hurts Clinton in Michigan is a poor showing among younger voters—the cohort that helped Bernie Sanders score an upset in the Democratic primary; currently in the Wolverine State’s 18-34 age group, Trump leads her 45%-33%
•In Ohio, younger voters are among her strengths; she leads Trump among them 50%-32%
•In Pennsylvania, it’s tight among this age group; she leads 42%-39%, according to the Emerson results
•“Clinton had trouble in the primaries with independents and younger voters and it looks like it is carrying over to the general,” Spencer Kimball, director of Emerson’s Washington program, said in an interview
•A national poll released today by New Jersey-based Monmouth University gives Clinton a 7-point lead, down from her 13-point advantage in a comparable survey earlier this month•In the RealClearPolitics average of recent national polls, Clinton’s lead stood at 4.4 pts as of late this afternoon
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-29/u-s-election-wrap-clinton-weaknesses-spotlighted-in-new-poll-isgl7jgb
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maybe some of her votes got erased in the latest HD wiping event. 
Wikileaks is coming out with something interesting about Clinton in the next few weeks. The rumor is that it is big. |
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| c6thplayer1 wrote: | maybe some of her votes got erased in the latest HD wiping event.
Wikileaks is coming out with something interesting about Clinton in the next few weeks. The rumor is that it is big. |
I predict it won't matter. Her voters are as corrupt as she is. They wouldn't care if she was recorded saying she was going to overthrow the Constitution.
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | maybe some of her votes got erased in the latest HD wiping event.
Wikileaks is coming out with something interesting about Clinton in the next few weeks. The rumor is that it is big. |
I predict it won't matter. Her voters are as corrupt as she is. They wouldn't care if she was recorded saying she was going to overthrow the Constitution. |
BUT RS, isn't that true about any base? WE see and hear what we want to. But I would like to see something solid that backs some things I suspect about Hillary. Something that could penetrate the teflon coating she has.
(Note the teflon wears off my pans, maybe with age some of hers will wear off  )
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c6thplayer1 |
| Cojak wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | maybe some of her votes got erased in the latest HD wiping event.
Wikileaks is coming out with something interesting about Clinton in the next few weeks. The rumor is that it is big. |
I predict it won't matter. Her voters are as corrupt as she is. They wouldn't care if she was recorded saying she was going to overthrow the Constitution. |
BUT RS, isn't that true about any base? WE see and hear what we want to. But I would like to see something solid that backs some things I suspect about Hillary. Something that could penetrate the teflon coating she has.
(Note the teflon wears off my pans, maybe with age some of hers will wear off ) |
I dont think it will ever wear off Cojak. the entire party has been swimming in a pool of teflon for quite some time now. |
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| Hillary could overthrow the constitution, Trump could stand in the middle of Park Avenue and shoot people, wouldn't matter to their supporters. |
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c6thplayer1 |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Hillary could overthrow the constitution, Trump could stand in the middle of Park Avenue and shoot people, wouldn't matter to their supporters. |
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| Cojak wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | maybe some of her votes got erased in the latest HD wiping event.
Wikileaks is coming out with something interesting about Clinton in the next few weeks. The rumor is that it is big. |
I predict it won't matter. Her voters are as corrupt as she is. They wouldn't care if she was recorded saying she was going to overthrow the Constitution. |
BUT RS, isn't that true about any base? WE see and hear what we want to. But I would like to see something solid that backs some things I suspect about Hillary. Something that could penetrate the teflon coating she has.
(Note the teflon wears off my pans, maybe with age some of hers will wear off ) |
I can't agree. W Bush had a 27% approval rating when he left office because his base abandoned him. The Dem base never abandons their thug candidates. We are becoming like Venezuela where 50% of the people will spy on the other 50%.
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I see now that Real Clear Politics is no longer showing the few polls that show Trump now leading, like the LA Times.
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | I see now that Real Clear Politics is no longer showing the few polls that show Trump now leading, like the LA Times. |
nope, still there. He's not leading though he is tied.
Monday, August 29
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Clinton 44, Trump 44 Tie |
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Cojak |
It is tough doing any poll in this election season, too many variables. More than I ever remember.
I can imagine a programmer flipping out with weights, wild cards and percentage variables.
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| UncleJD wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | I see now that Real Clear Politics is no longer showing the few polls that show Trump now leading, like the LA Times. |
nope, still there. He's not leading though he is tied.
Monday, August 29
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Clinton 44, Trump 44 Tie |
Tuesday his lead in that poll went up to two points and today he leads by almost 4. Not a peep of it mentioned in RCP.
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UncleJD |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | I see now that Real Clear Politics is no longer showing the few polls that show Trump now leading, like the LA Times. |
nope, still there. He's not leading though he is tied.
Monday, August 29
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Clinton 44, Trump 44 Tie |
Tuesday his lead in that poll went up to two points and today he leads by almost 4. Not a peep of it mentioned in RCP. |
If they are turning out a new poll every day, I doubt it could be accurate. I did read their own explanation of why they have it closer for Trump and they said it was because they round down for post-convention bumps. I don't know how scientific that is.
I do think Trump is getting it closer. Hillary has had her bad weeks now. At least we can look forward to the debates now with a little bit of hope. I still don't want to vote for Trump, but I at least want him to keep it close. The house and senate are the most important thing in this election in my eyes (since I don't trust either of them at the helm) |
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I guess RCP forgot about their conspiracy today
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Rasmussen Reports Clinton 39, Trump 40, Johnson 7, Stein 3 Trump +1 |
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| UncleJD wrote: | I guess RCP forgot about their conspiracy today
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Rasmussen Reports Clinton 39, Trump 40, Johnson 7, Stein 3 Trump +1 |
Trump will win the popular vote by 3-5 points, but he simply cannot win the Electoral College. Hillary could literally go into hiding until election day, hold not a single press conference, skip the debates and be diagnosed with Parkinson's and she'd still win the Electoral College. She has wisely pulled adds in Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio to save money and why not? She will win those States no matter what.
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RS, if that's hard to swallow, consider this scenario that I believe will happen.
Hillary wins but barely.
Republicans maintain majority in the house and senate.
Healthcare and taxes take a heavy toll on the American economy.
Republican majorities increase in 2018
More and more scandals for Hillary
Republicans block most gun-bills and other radical socialist legislation and somehow bring down the deficit or at least freeze it.
Hillary/Democrats loses big in 2020 (if she makes it that far with her health)
A true energetic conservative is nominated in 2020 and Hillary is a one-term failure.
4 years of misery and mediocrity followed by a true recovery.
Throw in a Texas revolt and it may even be a good 4 years. |
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| UncleJD wrote: | RS, if that's hard to swallow, consider this scenario that I believe will happen.
Hillary wins but barely.
Republicans maintain majority in the house and senate.
Healthcare and taxes take a heavy toll on the American economy.
Republican majorities increase in 2018
More and more scandals for Hillary
Republicans block most gun-bills and other radical socialist legislation and somehow bring down the deficit or at least freeze it.
Hillary/Democrats loses big in 2020 (if she makes it that far with her health)
A true energetic conservative is nominated in 2020 and Hillary is a one-term failure.
4 years of misery and mediocrity followed by a true recovery.
Throw in a Texas revolt and it may even be a good 4 years. |
So, the GOP Congress that opposed Obama on nothing will suddenly grow a spine and block Hillary? No way. Besides, no matter how bad it gets she will be reelected. There are just too many uniformed people voting in key States that should never have been allowed to vote to begin with.
Texit is our last hope.
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UncleJD |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | So, the GOP Congress that opposed Obama on nothing |
That is factually incorrect. Yes they gave in on budgets and things they never should have, but there are long lists of legislation that they blocked, and equally long lists of legislation they tried to pass that was vetoed by Hussein. I've posted them here before so I don't feel I need to again.
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: | There are just too many uniformed people voting in key States that should never have been allowed to vote to begin with.
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Every time you say this, and once was enough, it's the most asinine thing I've ever heard.
I take it to mean anyone who's not informed enough to vote for Trump. |
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| Patrick Harris wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | There are just too many uniformed people voting in key States that should never have been allowed to vote to begin with.
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Every time you say this, and once was enough, it's the most asinine thing I've ever heard. |
I am sorry.but someone who cannot pass a test of basic understanding of our history and constitution should not be voting. That would probably eliminate half of Congress and even some judges.
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