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Clint Wills |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | That's what Herman Cain was attempting to do with 999. It was a phase-in of the FairTax. Worried about it working? What we have now is not working. |
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9/27/16 1:04 pm
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | The candidate knows that promises don't have to be kept because in most cases, the President can't fulfill the promise without approvals in government. What good is a promise to end all abortions? We had a GOP president and full control of Congress. We still have abortion. |
EXACTLY!! Where has 20 years of Reagan, Bush1 & Bush 2 gotten the pro-life movement???
Trump is a Trojan Horse! Appreciated Philip Yancey's take (link) on the evangelical love fest with a man who seems to be prostitute to his ego. Giving permission to do anything for the payoff.
Sad. Pitiful. Heartbreaking.
The only redemption in any of this is that God loves both of them and is hoping for reconciliation not counting their sins against them.
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9/28/16 9:07 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
We didn't get enough conservative justices during the small amount of time we had full control.
We got close - but we always got turned away just short of the prize.
However, what you guys leave out is, Somebody please let me know how getting Hillary into office will get us closer to reversing those decisions.
I think she will put us further away - which is why I can't let her get elected.
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9/28/16 9:35 am
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| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | We didn't get enough conservative justices during the small amount of time we had full control.
We got close - but we always got turned away just short of the prize.
However, what you guys leave out is, Somebody please let me know how getting Hillary into office will get us closer to reversing those decisions.
I think she will put us further away - which is why I can't let her get elected. |
The SCOTUS appointment (only 1, since I don't think Ginsburg would retire if Trump is POTUS), is the ONLY issue worth considering in Trump's favor. Yet I don't believe it is the end-of-the-world scenario that most of his supporters want to push on the undecided. He has said too many times that he is a "negotiator" and I believe that he will negotiate a "moderate" into that position.
Further, I honestly believe that Trump would make such a mess of things that he would be a one-and-done and people would be embarassed to vote Republican for 40 years, assuring that everything the Trumpers try to tell us about Hillary will come true in a much bigger way and more irreversible. We had a 90 year-old socialist making big waves with the young generation, just wait until a 40-year-old one comes along when today's 15 year-olds are old enough to vote. Do you think their education has prepared them to vote conservatively?
On the other-hand a 4 year failure for Hillary might leave us pretty much in the same boat we are in today with the SCOTUS (big government wins every time), yet after her own party is even more tired of her by then than they are today, I think a good, young conservative with a message of freedom, liberty, small government and low taxes (Rubio), would be a shoe-in, and hopefully from there we could start making in-roads into the future voters with a hopeful conservative message. |
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9/28/16 10:32 am
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c6thplayer1 |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | We didn't get enough conservative justices during the small amount of time we had full control. |
we did get enough. 5 of the 9 were appointed by republicans.
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However, what you guys leave out is, Somebody please let me know how getting Hillary into office will get us closer to reversing those decisions. |
She wont and I dont believe that Trump would either
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I think she will put us further away - which is why I can't let her get elected.
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She will pull us further away. Lets find a candidate that wont - theres none on our current ticket. |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology
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9/28/16 11:43 am
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| I am going to say this again..... |
Jamie Noel |
We KNOW what Hillary will bring to the table. We DON'T know what Donald will do. He could be the worst president in the history of America, yet, he could end up being the BEST president we've seen in decades.
Many thought, including myself, that Obama would be such a debacle that he would end up being a "one and done" president. That wasn't the case.
So, I have boiled my decision down to this reality and question. Come Nov 8, one of these 2 WILL BE voted as our next President. Guaranteed. And I refuse to sit this one out and then complain about the condition of America if I didn't exercise my right. If you don't vote, then let that be your voice and then remain quiet for the next 4 years.
So, of the 2, which one would concern me more to lead our country, even if a one and done?
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9/29/16 9:28 am
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | | If you don't vote, then let that be your voice and then remain quiet for the next 4 years. |
And if you vote for Trump will you forever remain quiet when tempted to say about a political candidate, "Character matters"? |
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9/29/16 10:33 am
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UncleJD |
| Jamie Noel wrote: | | We KNOW what Hillary will bring to the table. We DON'T know what Donald will do. He could be the worst president in the history of America, yet, he could end up being the BEST president we've seen in decades. |
1. Yes, we do know what she brings, actual global leadership experience. It may not be what we would like, but it is a known quantity
2. What on earth have you seen from Trump that hints that he could be the BEST president in decades?
3. I would argue that you really DO know what you're going to get with Trump, you're just hoping for something else.
| Jamie Noel wrote: | | Many thought, including myself, that Obama would be such a debacle that he would end up being a "one and done" president. That wasn't the case. |
As much as I can't stand Obama, he was not a debacle to those who love liberalism, being disliked by the opposition, no matter how intensely, is a given isn't it? Trump's problem is that he is not even satisfactory to the majority of his espoused political wing (the conservatives), so if he dissapoints the conservatives as well as being opposed by the left, then he has little chance of being elected, much less re-elected.
| Jamie Noel wrote: | | So, I have boiled my decision down to this reality and question. Come Nov 8, one of these 2 WILL BE voted as our next President. Guaranteed. And I refuse to sit this one out and then complain about the condition of America if I didn't exercise my right. If you don't vote, then let that be your voice and then remain quiet for the next 4 years. |
I beg to differ, if I can't stand either one of them and don't want either to be POTUS, how could I possible complain about one if I ended up voting for them. I have more license to complain about the winner when either one turns out to be exactly what I thought they would. Mostly I will complain that my party nominated a loser.
| Jamie Noel wrote: | | So, of the 2, which one would concern me more to lead our country, even if a one and done? |
If you have it settled in your mind that one is better than the other, then I have no problem with you voting for them, that's up to you (unlike most of my "friends" who think they need to be in charge of my vote as well as theirs).
I however, do not believe that EITHER would be better than the other. |
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9/29/16 10:36 am
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| philunderwood wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | The candidate knows that promises don't have to be kept because in most cases, the President can't fulfill the promise without approvals in government. What good is a promise to end all abortions? We had a GOP president and full control of Congress. We still have abortion. |
EXACTLY!! Where has 20 years of Reagan, Bush1 & Bush 2 gotten the pro-life movement???
Trump is a Trojan Horse! Appreciated Philip Yancey's take (link) on the evangelical love fest with a man who seems to be prostitute to his ego. Giving permission to do anything for the payoff.
Sad. Pitiful. Heartbreaking.
The only redemption in any of this is that God loves both of them and is hoping for reconciliation not counting their sins against them. |
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| Quote: | Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
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9/29/16 1:39 pm
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| Anti-Trump people |
Dean Steenburgh |
For those of you who are anti-Trump,
Please do us all a big favor & go read for yourself HRC plan for America.
3 bad things right off the top:
A. free late term abortions for 3rd world countries financed by American taxes.
B. Common Core education reform (read it & weep for your own kids).
C. she will attempt as many forbidding laws possible to make the 2nd amend hard to exercise. (super expensive ammo, hard to find ammo, extreme fees on guns & excessive fees on gun permits & hunting licenses just to name a few)
In 2020 when she runs for re-election she'll deny ever having anything to do with the hardships on the American people regarding the 3 I just wrote about & she'll blame the GOP controlled legislature for the misery.
This woman is a nut case. Donald may be a character but I can stomach his attempts to rebuild America, however I cannot stomach her massive anti- Christian, brick by brick demolition of our life as we know it.
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9/30/16 4:32 pm
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c6thplayer1 |
| Dean Steenburgh wrote: | For those of you who are anti-Trump,
Please do us all a big favor & go read for yourself HRC plan for America.
3 bad things right off the top:
A. free late term abortions for 3rd world countries financed by American taxes.
B. Common Core education reform (read it & weep for your own kids).
C. she will attempt as many forbidding laws possible to make the 2nd amend hard to exercise. (super expensive ammo, hard to find ammo, extreme fees on guns & excessive fees on gun permits & hunting licenses just to name a few)
In 2020 when she runs for re-election she'll deny ever having anything to do with the hardships on the American people regarding the 3 I just wrote about & she'll blame the GOP controlled legislature for the misery.
This woman is a nut case. Donald may be a character but I can stomach his attempts to rebuild America, however I cannot stomach her massive anti- Christian, brick by brick demolition of our life as we know it. |
You just said the key words "she'll blame the GOP controlled legislature for the misery."
IF the GOP allows here to get by with all of that then so be it.
I dont think they will though. |
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9/30/16 9:30 pm
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UncleJD |
| There's never been a candidate more likely to be a one-termer than Hillary. She may not even win the 2020 Democratic primary. Meanwhile I think the GOP will learn its lesson (course I thought that before), and nominate a winner. |
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9/30/16 10:52 pm
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Jamie Noel |
If your link really is to a racy photo, then I would rather deal with a First Lady who had a past rather than one who will continue to murder unborn babies.
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10/5/16 2:15 pm
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c6thplayer1 |
| Jamie Noel wrote: |
If your link really is to a racy photo, then I would rather deal with a First Lady who had a past rather than one who will continue to murder unborn babies. |
Not defending Hillary , but the Supreme Court is the one that decides that. |
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10/5/16 3:01 pm
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Jamie Noel |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Jamie Noel wrote: |
If your link really is to a racy photo, then I would rather deal with a First Lady who had a past rather than one who will continue to murder unborn babies. |
Not defending Hillary , but the Supreme Court is the one that decides that. |
You are very correct on that. And if you look at the ages of the Supreme Court, you will understand that many will be coming off over the next 4-8 years. If those years are held by Hillary, she will create a 7-2 swing to the liberal side which will do the unthinkable. This would be law and in our lifetime we would never see it reversed or even challenged.
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10/6/16 8:55 am
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c6thplayer1 |
| Jamie Noel wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Jamie Noel wrote: |
If your link really is to a racy photo, then I would rather deal with a First Lady who had a past rather than one who will continue to murder unborn babies. |
Not defending Hillary , but the Supreme Court is the one that decides that. |
You are very correct on that. And if you look at the ages of the Supreme Court, you will understand that many will be coming off over the next 4-8 years. If those years are held by Hillary, she will create a 7-2 swing to the liberal side which will do the unthinkable. This would be law and in our lifetime we would never see it reversed or even challenged. |
Only if the house and senate approve her choices. |
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10/6/16 9:13 am
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Change Agent |
After todays posting of Trumps vulgar comments about women maybe we should at least remove the "gladly" from this post. Maybe the author may want to remove it or post his apologies.
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10/7/16 9:42 pm
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UncleJD |
| Change Agent wrote: | After todays posting of Trumps vulgar comments about women maybe we should at least remove the "gladly" from this post. Maybe the author may want to remove it or post his apologies.
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No Trumper will ever change their minds based on Trump's disgusting perversions. They knew full-well going in to this, as they were voting for him in the primary even, what kind of person he is. |
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10/8/16 9:34 am
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Uncle JD stated:
"No Trumper will ever change their minds based on Trump's disgusting perversions. They knew full-well going in to this, as they were voting for him in the primary even, what kind of person he is."
My question is, Could even God change their minds? If we are closed minded it means we are stubborn and don't want to hear God. We want it the way we want it.  |
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10/8/16 9:54 am
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