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Eddie Robbins

MacArthur: People of the Hispanic world don't know Christ (L)

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 **5/9/16 8:33 pm**

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/john-macarthur-the-people-of-the-hispanic-world-dont-know-christ/?utm_content=bufferb74f9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Cojak

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So Eddie, what is your take on the article?

Here is one comment on the article,

Ahasuerus Christian • 5 hours ago
The man spoke the truth, in love, based upon the truth of the gospel, that most people, including Israel of old, are religious but lost, and the Catholic church has taught them a lie - denying justification by faith, election of grace, the supremacy of Scripture, the finished work of Christ in atonement, the denial of another name given among men whereby we must be saved including Mary, promoting celibacy in "priests", etc, etc, etc. He's been more loving and truthful than the author of this article, Mr Corey, nor can you defend your position of scripture against a Calvinist because all he believes is rightly divided truth. Men have errors, but election, predestination, irresistible grace, and perseverance are gospel doctrine. Hatred is telling a man a lie and damning his soul.
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Old Time Country Preacher

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **5/9/16 9:15 pm**

OTCP has been accused by some Acts posters as being a MacArthur-ite, which of course aint true. However, I must admit, when it comes to his critique of the excess of Word of Faith and Prosperity pundits, ole J-Mac is 90% dead on (for Miss Bonnie, that means "on fleek").

Now:

1. If J-Mac said, "The People of the Hispanic World Don’t Know Christ."

2. And, if the people of the Hispanic world truly don't know Christ."

3. IT IS GOD'S FAULT! Cause, cordin to J-Macs theology, God arbitrarily elects, via predestination, an determines our lot in life--yep, even heaven/hell. So, if them Hispanic folk don't know Jesus, it shore aint their fault.

Patrick Harris

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1323 **5/9/16 9:17 pm**

Just another unbelievable statement from MacArthur. Not the first time he's gone off the deep end with his thoughts on who is saved and who is not.

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Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **5/10/16 8:41 am**

I wonder if his ministry will defend his broad-brush, overarching blanket statements like he did with his statements like they did with his statements about charismatics. Maybe they'll put up some blog posts defending his 'broad brush' comments as being legitimate like they did with those comments.
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Nature Boy Florida

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16646 **5/10/16 1:22 pm**

I guess MacArthurs heaven is pretty small - not many are going to get in.

His motto should be: Unlimited grace - for a few like me.
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Eddie Robbins

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 **5/10/16 1:29 pm**

I was asked what I thought of the article. I have always been aware of MacArthur's very strict Calvinist theology, so it doesn't shock me. He doesn't think Hispanics are chosen, evidently. As I read on a Facebook thread by someone I admire, he sees the Pentecostal church growing like crazy among Hispanics and he thinks Pentecostals are not chosen and preach a false gospel. I said that there is no much difference between MacArthur's theology and that of Westboro Baptist. He just doesn't act the fool about it.

Resident Skeptic

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Cojak

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Da Sheik

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1865 **5/11/16 9:59 am**

This is just a subjective remark by me, but I detect a noticeable lack of joy in John M's preaching and among his followers. Everything is so harsh and serious.

As to the Hispanic population....I'm not sure if this is the case where you live, but I see lots of Protestant Hispanic churches that are thriving. There is no denying the strong influence of Catholicism in Latin America, but I believe God is moving in spite of that.

bonnie knox

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Cojak

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Da Sheik

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1865 **5/12/16 7:47 am**

Eduardo Nieves

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3174 **5/12/16 9:26 am**

Our church was blessed to start out within another COG. We had a great time together! It was a blessing to have access to the facilities and to eventually grow into a new building of our own. I also understand that other churches may have bad experiences on occasion, but I pray that they will not permanently close their doors to other groups.

Eduardo Nieves

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3174 **5/12/16 9:32 am**

I think this quote sums it up pretty well.

"It’s Calvinism, not Christianity, that isn’t growing well in the Spanish speaking world."

Christian growth has shifted to the global south.
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Cojak

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **5/12/16 8:16 pm**

[quote="Eduardo Nieves"]Our church was blessed to start out within another COG. We had a great time together! It was a blessing to have access to the facilities and to eventually grow into a new building of our own. I also understand that other churches may have bad experiences on occasion, but I pray that they will not permanently close their doors to other groups.

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I had the distinct pleasure of meeting Edwardo and his family and touring the facility they have grown into, very impressive.
Brother Edwardo and his wife are impressive themselves, and our prayers are with them. Hey Ed, Love you man! Cool

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