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https://stevesimms.wordpress.com/2016/04/09/hooray-for-christ-chasing-church-hoppers/

I haven't read his book and I've got mixed feelings about this article, but I thought it might make interesting food for conversation.
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I guess those hoppers are different in that state.. Confused Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology
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The article paints with a broad brush, just as broad as the 'power hungry, or trouble making church hoppers' are painted.

Every case related to changing churches MUST be judged and greeted on its own merits and circumstances.

I was blessed to know and worship under a good pastor in Florida. The only pastor his kids had ever know was their dad, who happened to be a 'good' one.

One of his daughter's husband's company transferred them to Kentucky. I talked to her, warning her she might have a hard time finding a church they felt comfortable in.
Later she confided to her dad they did have a tough time, it took 5 churches before one clicked and it was an AG. But they were happy.

Pastors, your kids will one day have to look for a church, PK's sometimes make tough members because they are looking for the right fit. They will be church hoppers (maybe). Embarassed Wink
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I had some similar concerns with over-generalizations in the article. I'm not as enthusiastic about 'dones' as the article is. It seems like a lot of people who are done with church are overly individualistic and don't understand Biblical Christianity or don't want to be confronted over their sin. Not all people who are 'done with church' are spiritual.
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I had some similar concerns with over-generalizations in the article. I'm not as enthusiastic about 'dones' as the article is. It seems like a lot of people who are done with church are overly individualistic and don't understand Biblical Christianity or don't want to be confronted over their sin. Not all people who are 'done with church' are spiritual.
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I had some similar concerns with over-generalizations in the article. I'm not as enthusiastic about 'dones' as the article is. It seems like a lot of people who are done with church are overly individualistic and don't understand Biblical Christianity or don't want to be confronted over their sin. Not all people who are 'done with church' are spiritual.


I'd say you need to do a little more research on the Dones.

Most of them understand Biblical Christianity as well as most church goers. In addition, their leaving the church has nothing to do with being confronted over siin, it's about seeking a more authentic Christianity. They aren't individualistic either, they seek out others like themselves, those who are disenchanted with the typical church mentality.

In fact, the ones I know still gather weekly, just not in a service that looks anything like the modern church.

This paragraph from the article is very close to what The Dones believe:
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They don’t settle for the status quo, but keep their hopes up that they will be a part of a body of believers who will be open and honest before the living God. While they are regularly attending a particular church they continually hope that a move of God will break out there. Sometimes, in order to keep their hope and spiritual hunger from being quenched, they feel compelled to move on
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This paragraph from the article is very close to what The Dones believe:
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They don’t settle for the status quo, but keep their hopes up that they will be a part of a body of believers who will be open and honest before the living God. While they are regularly attending a particular church they continually hope that a move of God will break out there. Sometimes, in order to keep their hope and spiritual hunger from being quenched, they feel compelled to move on
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There is a lot of truth here also. There are 'honest' disenchanted Christians looking for the right place.'

My opinion, it is impossible to 'label truthfully' everyone who 'moves on', especially under one heading. Smile
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I haven't read the book yet, like I said. But I wonder if the author thinks the type of people who are 'done' with institutional churches and join house churches are 'dones'. If he thinks that, they aren't necessarily 'done with church', since they are a part of house church.

I'm on a house church list on facebook and one of the posters posted on his wall that he'd left the institutional church to get away from certain types of teaching and then left a house church over the same thing. He didn't mention any specific heresies.

Even if you disagree with some things, you've got to plug in to other believers. In a house church situation, you may be able to influence the others as well.

People who join house churches have a lot of different motivations. I was talking to one man who had a house church website and a couple of listserves at the time who was a part of a house church in Virginia. I asked him if they had a lot of people who were really against the 'institutional church' who were against any kind of organization (in the abstract sense). He was thankful to God that his group wasn't like that. There were certain individuals on the forums who had this attitude or philosophy that I found rather repulsive who seemed like they gravitated to house church since they were against 'organized religion', which didn't seem like a good motivation to me.

Fortunately, I didn't come across that with most house church people. At a house church conference, listening to the people, it felt a lot like if you go to a meeting where there are a lot of missionaries talking about their ministry issues. It was really similar feel in a lot of ways comparing their conversation around the table at dinner time and something I attended in Indonesia.

I understand that Christians can get frustrated over genuine concerns at times and that frustrated people may need encouragement.
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