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Nature Boy Florida |
Trump: If we are losing 500 billion a year to China, and 58 billion to Mexico, maybe we NEED to ruin that kind of "free" trade.
Advantage Trump.
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Nature Boy Florida |
The establishment really doesn't want Trump.
It makes you like Trump even more to know this.
I wonder if we can have another roll call tonight and ask if the folks running will support the Republican nominee and not run third party.
I guess its coming back to bite the Rep establishment for asking that. They were so afraid that a Trump third party run would cost them the election. Now they want to stop Trump from winning on the Republican ticket. The worm has turned.
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UncleJD |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | The establishment really doesn't want Trump.
It makes you like Trump even more to know this.
I wonder if we can have another roll call tonight and ask if the folks running will support the Republican nominee and not run third party.
I guess its coming back to bite the Rep establishment for asking that. They were so afraid that a Trump third party run would cost them the election. Now they want to stop Trump from winning on the Republican ticket. The worm has turned. |
I agree it wasn't well thought out, they should have just told him to go run 3rd party, we're not interested. I think he would have got way less attention and free media (why he's winning), and got bored. |
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| Re: Trump will ruin free trade (Romney) |
Cojak |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | Trump: If we are losing 500 billion a year to China, and 58 billion to Mexico, maybe we NEED to ruin that kind of "free" trade.
Advantage Trump. |
Someone wasn't very smart in 'trade' to put us in the position we are in. Amazing how smart you are when you are not going to be held to your words. Mitt & Jeb were high on my list, but it is amazing how ignorant they were on the pulse of the base, the real base.
Now they tout MITT as a conservative, most folk on this forum and many others called him a RINO. But now his wisdom will be decided by the polls and voters. I am anxious to see the poll numbers in the next few days. 
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UncleJD |
You guys need to go look at the Smoot-Hawley Tariff of 1930 and see what that did to the global economy.
Protectionism sounds great, but has never really produced the effect we want it to. What about China? If you want to give up 75% of your wages, then it might work out well here too (except they would retaliate which is the real problem) |
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Resident Skeptic |
| UncleJD wrote: | You guys need to go look at the Smoot-Hawley Tariff of 1930 and see what that did to the global economy.
Protectionism sounds great, but has never really produced the effect we want it to. What about China? If you want to give up 75% of your wages, then it might work out well here too (except they would retaliate which is the real problem) |
Not a good example IMO.
Trump is not talking about massive protectionism. He is talking about China cheating through currency manipulation and making slight adjustments to off-set that to discourage the practice.
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3/3/16 6:18 pm
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UncleJD |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | You guys need to go look at the Smoot-Hawley Tariff of 1930 and see what that did to the global economy.
Protectionism sounds great, but has never really produced the effect we want it to. What about China? If you want to give up 75% of your wages, then it might work out well here too (except they would retaliate which is the real problem) |
Not a good example IMO.
Trump is not talking about massive protectionism. He is talking about China cheating through currency manipulation and making slight adjustments to off-set that to discourage the practice. |
Of course it is. China is the biggest trading partner we have, it will have a snowball effect on everything, even causing other countries to become more competitive than the US because they WON'T raise tariffs. Then what? We raise them on those countries to "even the playing field"? . If you have a better example of it working with our biggest trade partner, I'd love to examine it. Is what China does unfair? Yes, absolutely. Why haven't we just raised tarriffs on them before? Smoot-Hawley. |
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3/3/16 6:47 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | You guys need to go look at the Smoot-Hawley Tariff of 1930 and see what that did to the global economy.
Protectionism sounds great, but has never really produced the effect we want it to. What about China? If you want to give up 75% of your wages, then it might work out well here too (except they would retaliate which is the real problem) |
Not a good example IMO.
Trump is not talking about massive protectionism. He is talking about China cheating through currency manipulation and making slight adjustments to off-set that to discourage the practice. |
Of course it is. China is the biggest trading partner we have, it will have a snowball effect on everything, even causing other countries to become more competitive than the US because they WON'T raise tariffs. Then what? We raise them on those countries to "even the playing field"? . If you have a better example of it working with our biggest trade partner, I'd love to examine it. Is what China does unfair? Yes, absolutely. Why haven't we just raised tarriffs on them before? Smoot-Hawley. |
China does not want to lose our business. They will back down.
Funny though. The GOP was the party of tariffs in 1860 and was even willing to go to war to make sure a new nation to the South could not threaten them.
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UncleJD |
| hilarious, at least its obvious that Trumpers will scrap conservatism if that's what it takes to get their man in their to protect them. Fear, that's what it comes down to, well you better look at those wonderful polls that Trump loves to quote until they show him losing to Clinton. The only candidate by-the-way in the current poll that does. |
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3/3/16 7:56 pm
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Cojak |
I am not for isolationism, but I am for FAIRNESS. I don't think common sense adjustments will kill the goose.
My man Perot said pass more of these Free trade agreements, and you will feel a big sucking sound as our jobs head South. He was right. Today I took a 4 mile walk. I passed 6 Textile mills that shut down in my home town due to FREE TRADE. There are 16 more shut down in this little town alone.
One of the mills is now an import business. They hire 10 people, the mill did hire 350. Nothing wrong with requiring out military to wear uniforms made in the USA, or requiring 60% of the steel used in our bridges to be USA made. Someone is smart enough to figure a balance, not me, but someone is.
I am not as sold as RS that Trump will/can do what he says. That is what we send those intelligent folk we elect to congress for, to enforce a balance. In an emergency they can ACT.
Trump is an unknown quantity in Politics, Hillary is not. I am not yet ready to say, Trump will be worse than Hillary.
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3/3/16 9:12 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| UncleJD wrote: | | hilarious, at least its obvious that Trumpers will scrap conservatism if that's what it takes to get their man in their to protect them. Fear, that's what it comes down to, well you better look at those wonderful polls that Trump loves to quote until they show him losing to Clinton. The only candidate by-the-way in the current poll that does. |
Again, when the anti-Trump hysteria among some Republican voters subsides, the numbers against Hillary will rise dramatically. It's the "I'll never vote for Trump under any circumstances" Republicans that are bringing those numbers down.
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Cojak |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | ... It's the "I'll never vote for Trump under any circumstances" Republicans that are bringing those numbers down. |
You are probably right RS, but that is their point anyone but Trump. anyway
Right now I do not see anyone that I like. I have said it many times, I will vote for the candidate most likely to defeat Hillary.
I also believe polls have been pretty accurate, but this year is a little different. If /Trump gets the nod, unless something drastic happens, he will get my vote. I cannot see Bill as first lady or first hubby! 
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