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Brandon Bohannon |
Okay, so Iowa is behind us... who do you like or who would you vote for today? Why?
I like Marco. He seems the most genuine to me. He is a true conservative. His values seem real and mostly align with my own.
I would vote for Cruz if he ends up our candidate. My one knock on Ted is that he is an attorney's attorney. He doesn't seem genuine and he's a bit of a jerk. That said, I'd vote for him.
Finally, O'Malley was the only Dem that I liked. He does seem like a good guy even if we disagree on a bunch. Mike Huckabee is also a good man and we did agree on a lot. I appreciate that they both ran. I hope some of the others get out soon now and that we have a three or four person race.
What about you? Who do you like? Why?
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I like Cruz. I believe he is a man of principle and he would work very hard to get the executive branch back to its constitutional purpose.
I would vote for Rubio though I do not like the fact that he did not go back and vote on this last terrible budget that was passed. He is still a Senator and should at least vote.
I don't think that will hurt him at all though. We seem to send people to Washington and forget why we sent them.  |
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Nature Boy Florida |
Rubio is too naïve. Got in league with McCain - shows his judgment stinks. He will go amnesty immediately - and Democrats will always win. He can't be trusted.
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UncleJD |
| I would vote for Rubio with only one hand on my nose so that means he's gone up in my book, but when the guy from Florida says he's what he just did, then I hope he doesn't get the nomination. |
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Brandon Bohannon |
| UncleJD wrote: | | I would vote for Rubio with only one hand on my nose so that means he's gone up in my book, but when the guy from Florida says he's what he just did, then I hope he doesn't get the nomination. |
UncleJD, the guy from Florida just created a Straw Man. 
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UncleJD |
| I agree with NBF, but I did say he's come up a little in my book. If we have to have an establishment guy I'd rather have Rubio. He's a neo-con though. Not a true conservative (neo-cons spend big money too, just overseas usually, and they don't believe in liberty over security) |
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skinnybishop |
I probably have more in common with Cruz.
For some reason, I "like" Rubio. I don't think he is/would be as bad as some portray.
Something about Cruz bugs me.....maybe it is his delivery in making speeches. Too much theater. Too much choreography. For example, his long....drawn out thanks to his mom last night. Just seemed over the top.
But with that said, if I had to vote, right now, I would probably vote for Cruz...Even if he doesn't deliver a great speech, I think his positions are in line with my beliefs.
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Brandon Bohannon |
| UncleJD wrote: | | I agree with NBF, but I did say he's come up a little in my book. If we have to have an establishment guy I'd rather have Rubio. He's a neo-con though. Not a true conservative (neo-cons spend big money too, just overseas usually, and they don't believe in liberty over security) |
That's fair. I am a little amuzed that Rubio is now "establishment". When he ran against Crist, he was the Tea Party choice. Now against Trump, Cruz and Carson, Rubio is "establishment". Just shows how angry we conservatives have all become at our own party in my opinion.
Today, I'd still go:
Rubio
Cruz
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Cojak |
WEll to quote My COG pastor and several of my KIN:
I AIN'T VOTING FOR NO CATHOLIC, THE POPE WILL BE RUNNING THE USA AND WE WILL HAVE TO PRAY THRU MARY TO GET TO JESUS! .......
That is a true quote from one of the earlier 'conspiracy theories' when JFK was running. I know died in the wool democrats who voted Republicans for the first and only time in their life.
Now, for right now I like Cruz (Not sure he is electable, if elected he will be like Carter, unable to work with congress), he broke the Cardinal rule, called his leader a LIAR and on the senate floor. Right or wrong morally, it is like the police Blue-Line, or finding a respected Dr. to back you in a malpractice suit, Congress will refuse to co-operate with Cruz.
So me? I guess it is Rubio, I do like him better than Hillary.
Then there is TRUMP to deal with, if he can convert his crowds to votes, he will carry the majority of the primary votes. 
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UncleJD |
| Brandon Bohannon wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | I agree with NBF, but I did say he's come up a little in my book. If we have to have an establishment guy I'd rather have Rubio. He's a neo-con though. Not a true conservative (neo-cons spend big money too, just overseas usually, and they don't believe in liberty over security) |
That's fair. I am a little amuzed that Rubio is now "establishment". When he ran against Crist, he was the Tea Party choice. Now against Trump, Cruz and Carson, Rubio is "establishment". Just shows how angry we conservatives have all become at our own party in my opinion.
Today, I'd still go:
Rubio
Cruz
Carson |
Let's just say that the establishment would prefer Rubio who hasn't called them all liars or idiots  .. Not to mention the fact that he leans toward hawkish big-war financing and invasive government surveillance that they love. (see "military industrial complex") |
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Brandon Bohannon wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | I agree with NBF, but I did say he's come up a little in my book. If we have to have an establishment guy I'd rather have Rubio. He's a neo-con though. Not a true conservative (neo-cons spend big money too, just overseas usually, and they don't believe in liberty over security) |
That's fair. I am a little amuzed that Rubio is now "establishment". When he ran against Crist, he was the Tea Party choice. Now against Trump, Cruz and Carson, Rubio is "establishment". Just shows how angry we conservatives have all become at our own party in my opinion.
Today, I'd still go:
Rubio
Cruz
Carson |
Dude - Rubio knifed all of us in the back.
he is only going to be a one term senator because of it. He barely beat Charlie Crist. Bush is the better candidate from Florida. At least he always tells you what he is going to do - and then does it. He's usually reasonable as well.
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zjudah1 |
Natch...you have a point, Rubio could have won a lot of points with voters had he returned to Washington and made a LOUD statement in his vote AGAINST Obama's last Bill....by NOT going back and voting against it, it was a vote FOR it, which hurt him.
I like the guy, a friend of mine and I had lunch with his Chief of Staff J.R, Sanchez back in 2014 in Washington. He said all the right things, we joked about Rubio running in 2016...Who would have thought....lol Based on what we talked about, Israel and the defense of it, my vote will be for Rubio.
I do not think Bush will make it. I like him, he does what he says he will do, but I dont think he will make it through the nomination process. He's a good guy. |
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Brandon Bohannon |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | Rubio is too naïve. Got in league with McCain - shows his judgment stinks. He will go amnesty immediately - and Democrats will always win. He can't be trusted. |
Who do you like? Why?
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Cojak |
| zjudah1 wrote: | Natch...you have a point, Rubio could have won a lot of points with voters had he returned to Washington and made a LOUD statement in his vote AGAINST Obama's last Bill....by NOT going back and voting against it, it was a vote FOR it, which hurt him.
I like the guy, a friend of mine and I had lunch with his Chief of Staff J.R, Sanchez back in 2014 in Washington. He said all the right things, we joked about Rubio running in 2016...Who would have thought....lol Based on what we talked about, Israel and the defense of it, my vote will be for Rubio.
I do not think Bush will make it. I like him, he does what he says he will do, but I dont think he will make it through the nomination process. He's a good guy. |
WE are pretty close here. I know it isn't popular in many places but I like Jeb also. I think he followed the WRONG POLITICAL advice and spent too much time attacking Rubio when he should have been addressing OBAMA, Hillary and the Democratic Administration. Yeah, I guess he is toast.
I am still not convinced who to vote for in the FL primary. I guess I will wait to see who is most electable.
Finally, it is too late for most (Cruz was last to give in) But this bunch of politicians like to Throw Reagan's name around, but forget his 11th Commandant! I wish they would follow it. Its for sure, Trump never read it. 
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Resident Skeptic |
If Rubio stays in, Trump wins. That simple.
Trump lost Iowa. So what?
He trailed there for weeks, then he lead for a couple of weeks. Having been convinced he'd lose there , he never set up the important ground game needed to compete effectively. If Iowa had a primary, he would have won.
Borders, Language and culture. Trump.
Having said that...I am still voting for Rand Paul in the Florida primary if he stays in the race.
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Cojak |
I know Trumps language will turn off many people. I can live the the language, I have lived with it for years. My wife however gets upset i.e. after the caucus when Trump, "We will do what ever the hell it takes in New Hampshire."
I know he is supposed to be educated, and I think his degree is genuine, but he comes across as having a 7th grade vocabulary.
I do not like nor appreciate coarse language, many of my military bosses used gutter language (some times I think intentionally) to emulate Chesty Puller or Patton. I even knew a couple chaplains who used gutter language to make a point.
WE have had potty mouth presidents behind closed doors,
BUT not a great idea for our President in public.
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| Brandon Bohannon wrote: |
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I don't get why you include Carson on your list. He has no experience at all. He's even more boring to listen to than Kasich, who may have some of the most relevant experience out of the whole bunch. I think Kasich would probably make a decent president, and aside from the boring Charisma type issues, may be nondivisive enough to beat Hillary in an election. Boring versus likeability problem may work well. But I don't think he'll get the nomination.
I hope either Rubio or Cruz get the nomination. Cruz does seem rather wooden when making speeches. If it's Cruz versus Hillary, both may have a 'likeability' problem, which may level the playing field on that regard. Rubio seems more likeable to me as a person and more interesting to listen to.
I wonder if a Cruz-Rubio or Rubio-Cruz ticket or any ticket with either of them as the presidential nominee would permanently recruit a large number of Hispanics into the Republican party. That could be very good for Republicans, if Hispanics began to think of it as their party. Do Hispanics consider Cubans to be part of their own group, or are they Cuban instead of Mexican, Guatemalan, etc?
It's funny that of the top four from Iowa, there is only one Anglo-Celtic contender and a Hispanic won the most.
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| Link wrote: |
It's funny that of the top four from Iowa, there is only one Anglo-Celtic contender and a Hispanic won the most. |
That is because we are so well-rounded Link. We ain't prejudiced, we hate everybody equally!
I about forget about Kasich, I liked what I heard from him, I could vote for him for President without holding my nose. But I probably won't get the chance.
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Brandon Bohannon |
| Link wrote: | | Brandon Bohannon wrote: |
Rubio
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I don't get why you include Carson on your list. He has no experience at all. He's even more boring to listen to than Kasich, who may have some of the most relevant experience out of the whole bunch. I think Kasich would probably make a decent president, and aside from the boring Charisma type issues, may be nondivisive enough to beat Hillary in an election. Boring versus likeability problem may work well. But I don't think he'll get the nomination.
I hope either Rubio or Cruz get the nomination. Cruz does seem rather wooden when making speeches. If it's Cruz versus Hillary, both may have a 'likeability' problem, which may level the playing field on that regard. Rubio seems more likeable to me as a person and more interesting to listen to.
I wonder if a Cruz-Rubio or Rubio-Cruz ticket or any ticket with either of them as the presidential nominee would permanently recruit a large number of Hispanics into the Republican party. That could be very good for Republicans, if Hispanics began to think of it as their party. Do Hispanics consider Cubans to be part of their own group, or are they Cuban instead of Mexican, Guatemalan, etc?
It's funny that of the top four from Iowa, there is only one Anglo-Celtic contender and a Hispanic won the most. |
Hey there Link!
I only included Carson on this go around because he had enough support in Iowa to stay in it for now and I would vote for him over Trump.
I agree about Kasich. I typically prefer the skill set of the former governors over the senators for Commander and Chief. I could get behind Bush, Christie and/or Kasich but I don't feel that any of them will be standing come nomination time. Thus my list was my order of preference, for now, of the top four coming out of Iowa.
I am not Hispanic but my understanding of my friends who are suggests that overall they are actually harder on Hispanic candidates and not as supportive across nationality lines: ie Puerto Ricans of Mexicans or El Salvadorians of Hondurans, etc. I don't pretend to know why but that is my observation.
Some have mentioned Rand Paul in this thread but his stance on Israel the last time I checked him out didn't really click with me. He seems to be an Isolationist and I find that incongruous with my personal beliefs and feelings of eschatology. So to clarify, I really prefer the governors but out of who is on top for now, I would support Cruz or Rubio with my current preference being Rubio.
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Resident Skeptic |
| Brandon Bohannon wrote: | | Link wrote: | | Brandon Bohannon wrote: |
Rubio
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I don't get why you include Carson on your list. He has no experience at all. He's even more boring to listen to than Kasich, who may have some of the most relevant experience out of the whole bunch. I think Kasich would probably make a decent president, and aside from the boring Charisma type issues, may be nondivisive enough to beat Hillary in an election. Boring versus likeability problem may work well. But I don't think he'll get the nomination.
I hope either Rubio or Cruz get the nomination. Cruz does seem rather wooden when making speeches. If it's Cruz versus Hillary, both may have a 'likeability' problem, which may level the playing field on that regard. Rubio seems more likeable to me as a person and more interesting to listen to.
I wonder if a Cruz-Rubio or Rubio-Cruz ticket or any ticket with either of them as the presidential nominee would permanently recruit a large number of Hispanics into the Republican party. That could be very good for Republicans, if Hispanics began to think of it as their party. Do Hispanics consider Cubans to be part of their own group, or are they Cuban instead of Mexican, Guatemalan, etc?
It's funny that of the top four from Iowa, there is only one Anglo-Celtic contender and a Hispanic won the most. |
Hey there Link!
I only included Carson on this go around because he had enough support in Iowa to stay in it for now and I would vote for him over Trump.
I agree about Kasich. I typically prefer the skill set of the former governors over the senators for Commander and Chief. I could get behind Bush, Christie and/or Kasich but I don't feel that any of them will be standing come nomination time. Thus my list was my order of preference, for now, of the top four coming out of Iowa.
I am not Hispanic but my understanding of my friends who are suggests that overall they are actually harder on Hispanic candidates and not as supportive across nationality lines: ie Puerto Ricans of Mexicans or El Salvadorians of Hondurans, etc. I don't pretend to know why but that is my observation.
Some have mentioned Rand Paul in this thread but his stance on Israel the last time I checked him out didn't really click with me. He seems to be an Isolationist and I find that incongruous with my personal beliefs and feelings of eschatology. So to clarify, I really prefer the governors but out of who is on top for now, I would support Cruz or Rubio with my current preference being Rubio. |
Israel does not need our money. Where in the Bible does it say we are required to defend Israel militarily? We certainly should not go against them militarily either. But they do have a disproportionate amount of Influence in our Congress. We usually end up endangering them by not letting them defend themselves.
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