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caseyleejones

Do you believe in a literal Adam and Eve?

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11791 **10/31/15 4:33 pm**

Allegorical perhaps? Can one believe that it is allegorical and not be heretical?

thanks

brotherjames

How big is your God?

Acts-celerater Posts: 935 **10/31/15 4:50 pm**

Why would you diminish the Word of God to fit the world's interpretation of history. God by His very nature is supernatural and if He is not supernatural He is not God. And if God is supernatural then how difficult is it for Him to do exactly what the Bible describes to us He did? This is the overriding problem of the Church. We can't by rational thought understand or believe the stories the way they are written in the Bible. They are too fantastic. But, where do we stop rationalizing? Creation? How about the resurrection? Rationalize away the resurrection and you have no Jesus and before you're done, no God. An allegory? No. Truth for those who can believe in aN extra-ordinary, super-natural God!!!

c6thplayer1

c6thplayer1 · Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6385 **10/31/15 5:01 pm**

I guess one would first have to understand the stability factor { MU }of each.
Then equate that with the Transient Ambient Thermal Impedance of the minds of those doing the analyzation.

In other words only a small amount of current may be generated in the minds of some during analyzation thus making the final output thought negligible. Thus inaccuracies may occur. Cool

famousflavius

Golf Cart Mafia Soldier Posts: 2447 **10/31/15 5:01 pm**

I still believe.

caseyleejones

Re: How big is your God?

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11791 **10/31/15 5:04 pm**

Cojak

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Cojak

Re: Do you believe in a literal Adam and Eve?

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bonnie knox

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **10/31/15 5:23 pm**

Unless you believe we gradually evolved from a different life form, you would have to believe that there WAS a first man and a first woman.
A literal Adam and Eve makes sense to me.

brotherjames

casey

Acts-celerater Posts: 935 **10/31/15 8:32 pm**

A parable is similar to an allegory, but the story of Adam and Eve given to Moses by God Himself to write down for posterity so we would understand our "beginnings" is NOT a parable nor an allegory. Now, it may be illogical to the human and scientific mind. That's what I meant by diminishing God. If I have to be able to logically determine God's Word is true when science or logic says it can't be, then I can't believe in the story He told me. And if one part is based on a lie then might not others be as well? However, my God is a big, omnipotent God who can do anything. So it is logical for me to dare to believe all His Word because He may have said some preposterous things (at least to some) but God is able to do exceeding, abundantly more than we have ever dreamed or imagined. Parables are stories but When it says, "and God said", I choose to believe it as fact.

mytimewillcome

Golf Cart Mafia Underboss Posts: 3661 **10/31/15 9:44 pm**

While I believe in a literal Adam, I would give someone who didn't some grace. Some come very scientific, analytical backgrounds and struggle with things a 6 day creation period and such.

If we kicked them out of the church for a belief in an allegorical Adam, we lose out on a testimony within communities we need access.

The natural progression and question is "where do we draw the line?"

The gospel of Jesus crucitied and rose again is essential along with the Apostles Creed. If we have that as the foundation, the Holy Spirit will work on the rest.

Old Time Country Preacher

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15564 **10/31/15 10:59 pm**

caseyleejones

That is me...

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11791 **11/1/15 8:27 am**

JLarry

How can this be

Acts Mod Posts: 3346 **11/1/15 8:45 am**

I assume most who post here are CoG, or have ties with the CoG.

With that being said, how can anyone possibly believe the recorded Biblical account of the first man and woman, Adam and Eve to be anything other than REAL.

I am a simple man. If I believe the BIBLE, I believe all the BIBLE.

I even believe one man, Noah built a huge boat the BIBLE calls an Ark. I have no idea how God had all those animals cross oceans and come from around the world to get to the ark, but I believe what the BIBLE says.

I have no idea how a man lived in a fish for three days, but the BIBLE said is happened, and I believe it.

I have no idea how a man, Jesus was killed and rose from the dead, hey He even went into the heart of the earth and preached for three days. I don't know how it happened, but the BIBLE said it so I believe it.

I don't even know how He radically changed my life in 1970, but He did.

If I did not believe in a real Adam and Eve, how could I believe in a real Jesus?

I don't even understand how such a question would come up on a board like Acts, but somehow it did.

Thank you BrotherJames for your great response to this question.

"Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the EVIDENCE of things NOT seen" Heb. 11:1.

Yes my friend it takes FAITH, not human understanding to believe what God has said. I suppose I lack understanding (I do not have a real degree) so I have to rely on FAITH.

We can debate OSAS, or EE or Sanctification, but how can we debate whether or not there was a real Adam and Eve.
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c6thplayer1

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6385 **11/1/15 10:54 am**

How many posters had to look up the meanings of " allegorical and heretical "?
Be honest.

Cojak

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Old Time Country Preacher

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15564 **11/1/15 3:28 pm**

Ventureforth

Re: How can this be

Acts-celerater Posts: 651 **11/1/15 4:14 pm**

mytimewillcome

Golf Cart Mafia Underboss Posts: 3661 **11/1/15 8:15 pm**

If you take away every teaching of Jesus that is allegorical in nature, you wouldn't have much left.

The "Word" taught in allegory form so there seems to be some room for some to consider that other places in the Word could be as well.

It is not cut-and-dry to see everything in the Bible is literal. It just isn't true.

(P.S. I believe in the literal creation story)

Ventureforth

Acts-celerater Posts: 651 **11/1/15 8:34 pm**

Cojak

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