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COG(Cleveland) vs COG(MT. Assembly) questions |
wayne |
I know several current COG(Cleveland) pastors who were once COG(Mt. Assembly) members/pastors. What is the difference between the two denominations?
I know in our area the Mt. Assembly seems to not be doing very well. Their congregations are usually very small and very exclusive. They seem to be more "holy" than most and stick to hymns and traditional southern gospel/gospel songs.
I was in service with some Mt. Assembly folks recently and you could feel the spiritual divide in the room and see that there was a definite difference in the 2 groups.
I am not trying to stereotype or lump all in the same group, I really want to know what the differences are. |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1274 4/4/16 1:37 pm
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UncleJD |
Are they the ones with the white Harley Davidson ready for Jesus to ride? |
Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3147 4/4/16 2:55 pm

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Cojak |
UncleJD wrote: | Are they the ones with the white Harley Davidson ready for Jesus to ride? |
Never heard that one JD! Of course I live under a rock my family says.  _________________ Some facts but mostly just my opinion!
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 4/4/16 3:05 pm

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UncleJD wrote: | Are they the ones with the white Harley Davidson ready for Jesus to ride? |
Nah - that was the COG at Jerusalem acres (where else) _________________ Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going today! |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16646 4/4/16 3:12 pm

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DrDuck |
UncleJD wrote: | Are they the ones with the white Harley Davidson ready for Jesus to ride? |
Nope. That would be the Grady Kent schism. Jerusalem Acres church.
A move was made in the 1912 General Assembly to merge with COG Cleveland. Mountain Assembly representatives rejected the COG proposal.
(C. Conn- Like A Mighty Army) |
Acts-celerater Posts: 755 4/4/16 4:32 pm

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Re: COG(Cleveland) vs COG(MT. Assembly) questions |
Old Time Country Preacher |
wayne wrote: | I know several current COG(Cleveland) pastors who were once COG(Mt. Assembly) members/pastors. What is the difference between the two denominations? |
Much could be enumerated here, Wayne, but the primary difference is:
The COG is right!
The COGMA ain't! |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 4/4/16 5:58 pm
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Poimen |
There isn't a whole of difference doctrinally. Historically I would venture to say there wasn't a drastic difference in polity or organization either. As Dr. Duck pointed out they almost merged with the COG at one time. Anyhow, here is a link to their website if you haven't visited it already. Maybe it will answer your questions better.
http://www.cgmahdq.org/ _________________ Poimen
Bro. Christopher
Singing: "Let us then be true and faithful -- trusting, serving, everyday. Just one glimpse of Him in glory will the toils of life repay." |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5657 4/4/16 6:01 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
Poimen wrote: | There isn't a whole of difference doctrinally. Historically I would venture to say there wasn't a drastic difference in polity or organization either. As Dr. Duck pointed out they almost merged with the COG at one time. Anyhow, here is a link to their website if you haven't visited it already. Maybe it will answer your questions better.
http://www.cgmahdq.org/ |
Lookin at the leadership of the COGMA, it looks like AJT and the COGOP. Them Walden boys has got the executive leadership wrapped up in a dictatorship.
http://www.cgmahdq.org/id5.html |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 4/4/16 6:23 pm
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I wrote the leader once... |
Aaron Scott |
I was stunned to have learned that the COGMA, thought birthed from the same holiness revival as the COG, was NOT part of the early COG. It was a separate and independent movement from our own, though espousing many similarities.
I asked why we weren't all in the same church. The guy told me that, if we were willing, they would be happy to take us in (SMILE). I had that one coming.
I know that most denominations--and churches--are loathe to merge because it means the loss of power in some area. So I just let it go. |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6042 4/4/16 6:53 pm
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It would not be a merge |
Mat |
It would not be a merge, it would be a disappearance. The COGMA churches and history would be a "bump in the road" to the COG consciousness. Would merging with COG enhance the local congregation, or would it be adsorbed and sold off to support the State Offices? Would the ministers of the COGMA be given the same status as they now hold, or would entry to the COG require them to "start over" in their licensee/ordination process? If they merge this week, could their ordained ministers kept they status in the COG and vote in Assembly this summer?
We are in an age of new networks, not old denominations. That is why many large (and not so large) congregations who once were part of a denomination have broken away to form (semi-independent) new relationships with other ministries. I know that in the COGOP there is a new incorporation process underway, developed by leadership, which would allow local churches to retain their property and choose for themselves if they wanted to participate in a merger with another denomination.
So the question is, why would I want to join a denomination with OTCP just to have my spiritual heritage mocked, belittled and made fun of?
Sometimes this forum makes being part of Calvary Chapel or Vineyard look inviting.
Mat |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1994 4/5/16 8:06 am

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wayne |
Yep that's them. I thought from the picture of the church they would be a little different. |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1274 4/5/16 8:16 am
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Re: It would not be a merge |
Old Time Country Preacher |
Mat wrote: | So the question is, why would I want to join a denomination with OTCP just to have my spiritual heritage mocked, belittled and made fun of? |
Mat, please name one time when OTCP has mocked, belittled or made fun of the genuine, biblical, theologically correct truths/manifestations/traditions of our COG heritage. I have never done so. Now the excess/error, and yes there was some just as there is in most any movement/tradition (especially in the beginning), that is what I have dealt with.
If the Vineyard is attractive to you, I would be concerned about my attractions and proclivities. |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 4/5/16 8:17 am
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wayne |
Poimen wrote: | There isn't a whole of difference doctrinally. Historically I would venture to say there wasn't a drastic difference in polity or organization either. As Dr. Duck pointed out they almost merged with the COG at one time. Anyhow, here is a link to their website if you haven't visited it already. Maybe it will answer your questions better.
http://www.cgmahdq.org/ |
From a techy standpoint this website says a lot. |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1274 4/5/16 8:21 am
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bonnie knox |
Quote: | I would be concerned about my attractions and proclivities |
At's a right smart of a mouthful. You do purty good with ya words for a feller from Pikeville. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 4/5/16 8:23 am

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wayne |
I grew up in a COG church that was a lot like the COGMA and I have to be very candid here, I was miserable. As a kid, I had made up my mind that I would rather be a sinner than deal with this "holiness" behavior.
Where does this teaching, style, behavior come from? |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1274 4/5/16 8:25 am
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Mat |
You don't think you saying, "Lookin at the leadership of the COGMA, it looks like AJT and the COGOP. Them Walden boys has got the executive leadership wrapped up in a dictatorship" is not a shot at both organization? All I can say is may your children never follow you in ministry.
Mat |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1994 4/5/16 8:29 am

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DrDuck |
wayne wrote: | I grew up in a COG church that was a lot like the COGMA and I have to be very candid here, I was miserable. As a kid, I had made up my mind that I would rather be a sinner than deal with this "holiness" behavior.
Where does this teaching, style, behavior come from? |
I too was raised in that same atmosphere and never was ashamed or dismayed at the holiness stand of those saints of God. The tragedy is that the COG has long since defaulted regarding sanctification in a practical sense. I still believe the Word of God.
Hebrews 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: . . ."
To choose to stand against holiness and sanctification is to choose sin over salvation. |
Acts-celerater Posts: 755 4/5/16 8:46 am

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Quiet Wyatt |
wayne wrote: | I grew up in a COG church that was a lot like the COGMA and I have to be very candid here, I was miserable. As a kid, I had made up my mind that I would rather be a sinner than deal with this "holiness" behavior.
Where does this teaching, style, behavior come from? |
Bro, you live in Kentucky, and you don't know where it comes from? |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 4/5/16 8:49 am
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JimmieDavis |
Searching back through your diatribe, I couldn't find any such encouraging, uplifting edifying posts that you have ever posted. You are a thug. I called you a name because your behavior is that of a self righteous thug. |
Friendly Face Posts: 219 4/5/16 8:57 am
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