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Cojak |
I don't see how anyone can blame a woman for breaking up a marriage. There is enough blame to go around, and it AIN'T just one sided.
Ministers have an urgent need to stay 'straight'.
To me the minister falls into the same category as a cop who steals or takes bribes. They have a responsibility for a position of authority. The minister tell the congregation God Can Keep YOU and holds them to it. Well anyway it is just my opinion. 
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4/2/16 10:00 pm
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This is what Israel Houghton himself posted on FB on 3/22/16 concerning this:
In the midst of all that's going on in the world... Suffering, terrorism, deciding a future for our country, and making the world safer; It is sad that I am even having to address this matter... I understand that gossip and salacious untrue speculative stories are far more interesting and entertaining than the truth & facts. But, it's incredibly unfair to allow someone to carry the burden, blame & shame of something they had nothing to do with...
I met Adrienne Bailon a bit over 2 years ago, we worked together & became friends... Our circles connected & we remained good friends. From a friendship, as two single adults we have very recently begun to explore a dating relationship.
As I previously wrote in a statement I released a while back, My marriage had been over for quite some time before going public with my divorce announcement.
Where I shared, or as some have pointed out 'over-shared' my failure in my marriage... From over 5 years prior. It seems to be simple math that I had not even yet met Adrienne during the time my marriage was falling apart.
It deeply saddens me that an innocent party would be dragged into this situation that I have taken personal responsibility for. Adrienne is a woman of integrity & character... Most of all she is a true friend, and she should not be blamed for my past indiscretions. I assure you - I am willing to own my wrongs and I have in the past. God knows & sees all things. I appreciate your prayers, and I join you in praying for the issues of life that truly matter today all over the world.
Israel Houghton
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4/2/16 11:33 pm
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| I'm amused at the integrity and character thing. |
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4/3/16 7:14 am
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| Osteen Puts Israel on Indefinite Leave |
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Reality wives?
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4/3/16 1:27 pm
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Cojak |
I love the defense statement comparing his problems to the world problems. In this case I hope his ex-wife got a good settlement! 
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Ole Timer, I don't know about your headline, there. Did you read the update? It says
Update: A rep for Houghton told Radar, “Israel has been on staff at Lakewood for 15 years, since 2001, and actually remains officially on staff. He was never suspended, nor was he put on an indefinite leave, but is on a personal sabbatical of his choosing.”
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4/3/16 1:47 pm
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diakoneo |
| bonnie knox wrote: | Ole Timer, I don't know about your headline, there. Did you read the update? It says
Update: A rep for Houghton told Radar, “Israel has been on staff at Lakewood for 15 years, since 2001, and actually remains officially on staff. He was never suspended, nor was he put on an indefinite leave, but is on a personal sabbatical of his choosing.”
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and thus my confusion as to using that source...for anything. They should have taken it down after the update. |
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4/3/16 2:17 pm
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bonnie knox |
I know what you mean, diakoneo. Some of these sites are using beach pictures and innuendo just to get some clicks.
My son is a musician and has followed some of Houghton's music. My son mentioned to me back in February that Israel was getting divorced. I was surprised that it wasn't on Acts, but I decided not to scoop it. I mentioned some issues to my son at the time about how it is more important to have personal integrity than to have a big celebrity 'ministry' and that a system that sets up people as celebrities can be damaging to personal relationships if the system doesn't encourage someone to step aside to deal with personal failings. (You know, all that stuff a parent says to her offspring that he really didn't need for her to go into at the moment.)
(Of course, I'm an old fuddy dud, anyway, who was suspicious of IH when I saw his album cover with the Abbey Road Crosswalk--what?! why is he idolizing the Beatles??!! LOL.) |
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4/3/16 2:30 pm
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| bonnie knox wrote: | Ole Timer, I don't know about your headline, there. Did you read the update? It says
Update: A rep for Houghton told Radar, “Israel has been on staff at Lakewood for 15 years, since 2001, and actually remains officially on staff. He was never suspended, nor was he put on an indefinite leave, but is on a personal sabbatical of his choosing.”
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That's the title a the article. Sorry if the articles author made it confusing. |
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4/3/16 4:19 pm
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Cojak |
Sad about that list. Satan takes glee in every name he assists in adding to it. That said, many add their names without the devil's help (it seems). 
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4/3/16 10:01 pm
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Can't keep his vows? You've broken yours too...the vows are more than just to keep yourself out of bed with someone else. Do you really want some of the things you've said, thought and done to your spouse made into headlines?
Comparing his problems to the world's problems? That's not what his statement says. It says we have way bigger things to do than accuse a woman of breaking up his marriage when he hadn't even met her.
Using integrity and character? He isn't referring to his integrity and character. He was simply defending someone, falsely accused of breaking up his marriage.
Drop the rocks. We really do have better things to talk about.
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4/4/16 6:39 am
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | Comparing his problems to the world's problems? That's not what his statement says. It says we have way bigger things to do than accuse a woman of breaking up his marriage when he hadn't even met her.
Using integrity and character? He isn't referring to his integrity and character. He was simply defending someone, falsely accused of breaking up his marriage. |
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4/4/16 8:07 am
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| Quote: | Matthew 19:9
I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery." |
You and Israel may want to focus on "more important things", but there are few things more important than marriage.
As for your "rocks" statement, that might sound really righteous to you, but its a misuse of the scripture. Nobody is advocating putting Israel Houghton to death here, but the admonition to go and sin no more is certainly appropriate. Which would be that he may have no other "wife" now that he has put his true wife away, not to mention he should leave his "sex-cation" in Mexico without the woman, the bastion of virtue and grace that he's there with, go home and apologize to his family and resign his position or recant his statements. But of course none of that will happen, he has learned the cheap grace doctrine too. Just slop on the sloppy-agape, point your finger at the mean ol' legalists, and continue to be your own justification, its exactly how the same excuses are used by the homosexuals, embezzlers, serial divorcees, and everyone else who is above being criticized in the modern evangelical circles. |
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4/4/16 8:22 am
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | | Which would be that he may have no other "wife" now that he has put his true wife away, |
Did he put her away or did she put him away? His first wife may not want to be married to him since her trust was betrayed over 5 years ago with his 'moral failure.' |
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4/4/16 9:02 am
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| bradfreeman wrote: | Can't keep his vows? You've broken yours too...the vows are more than just to keep yourself out of bed with someone else. Do you really want some of the things you've said, thought and done to your spouse made into headlines?
Comparing his problems to the world's problems? That's not what his statement says. It says we have way bigger things to do than accuse a woman of breaking up his marriage when he hadn't even met her.
Using integrity and character? He isn't referring to his integrity and character. He was simply defending someone, falsely accused of breaking up his marriage.
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But I guess sin should never come up.
Surprising Jesus told folks to go and sin no more - but you believe his followers should never mention anyone's sin - especially "Christian" leaders sins.
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4/4/16 9:04 am
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| bonnie knox wrote: | | Quote: | | Which would be that he may have no other "wife" now that he has put his true wife away, |
Did he put her away or did she put him away? His first wife may not want to be married to him since her trust was betrayed over 5 years ago with his 'moral failure.' |
I read it that he divorced her, but either way he's in the same boat being on sex-cation in Mexico with someone other than his wife. |
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4/4/16 10:14 am
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bonnie knox |
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I read it that he divorced her, but either way he's in the same boat being on sex-cation in Mexico with someone other than his wife. |
If he is divorced, she is no longer his wife.
I have no idea if he is on a sex-cation, whatever that is. |
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4/4/16 10:50 am
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| All I know is I aint buyin no Israel Houghton CD's to git ma praise on with. Guess I'll hang with ma ole Goodman LP's. Cause I know Vestel was not a loose lass. |
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