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bonnie knox |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | I am troubled by any support of this clip. I'll leave it at that. |
It boggles the mind, except when you remember "The love of money is the root of all evil." |
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1/15/16 8:06 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | I am troubled by any support of this clip. I'll leave it at that. |
And you have every right to be! I am troubled as well. |
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1/15/16 11:42 am
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c6thplayer1 |
| Pastor Nations wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Pastor Nations wrote: | I'm going to defend these guys a little bit.
I've flown private a few times out of necessity and I know the difference.
Not just televangelists, but some mega-church pastors now use private jets.
Some of these guys work very, very hard with full schedules.
They don't get off work at 5:00, go home and watch television.
There is no way they could keep their schedules and fly commercial.
Their ministry and church budgets are multiples greater than most of our churches.
(I know of one mega-church that has 250 Sunday School teachers)
Without commenting on each of their doctrines, I am sure there is a certain amount of faith needed for the finances of their ministries.
Btw, some of the jets used by evangelists and mega-church pastors are not Gulfstreams - and can be purchased used for as little as 250,000. A decent used Citation can go for 250-400.
250,000 would buy a one bedroom condo in San Fran, L.A., or New York. |
Where can you find a Citation that dont have Sopwith Camel written on it for 250-400k? Heres a tally chart that shows what ownership of a few different planes will cost.
http://corporatejetinvestor.com/articles/the-costs-of-a-business-jet-312/ |
Too many to list, there are plenty, depending on year, make, model, etc:
http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1359905/1974-cessna-citation-500
http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1379593/1973-cessna-citation-500
http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1279537/1974-cessna-citation-500-sp-lw
As I said, they don't all own Gulfstreams, some own lower end older models, and some middle-range.
Importantly, prob most have loan payments or are leased. And they just factor that in as an expense.
Many jet owners only own shares of jets.
Some fly their own planes.
Again costs of payments, maintenance, etc. is relative to income and/or income potential.
I know an evangelist that had his own prop plane, owned property with a landing strip and did his own maintenance. |
Wow. right on target. I really bit the dust on this one. thanks PN |
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1/16/16 12:15 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Pastor Nations wrote: | | I know an evangelist that had his own prop plane, owned property with a landing strip and did his own maintenance. |
I didn't know you knowed me, Pastor Nations? Son, what is your real name. Ats me an ma Sopwith you talkin bout aint it? |
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1/16/16 2:17 pm
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Pastor Nations |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Pastor Nations wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Pastor Nations wrote: | I'm going to defend these guys a little bit.
I've flown private a few times out of necessity and I know the difference.
Not just televangelists, but some mega-church pastors now use private jets.
Some of these guys work very, very hard with full schedules.
They don't get off work at 5:00, go home and watch television.
There is no way they could keep their schedules and fly commercial.
Their ministry and church budgets are multiples greater than most of our churches.
(I know of one mega-church that has 250 Sunday School teachers)
Without commenting on each of their doctrines, I am sure there is a certain amount of faith needed for the finances of their ministries.
Btw, some of the jets used by evangelists and mega-church pastors are not Gulfstreams - and can be purchased used for as little as 250,000. A decent used Citation can go for 250-400.
250,000 would buy a one bedroom condo in San Fran, L.A., or New York. |
Where can you find a Citation that dont have Sopwith Camel written on it for 250-400k? Heres a tally chart that shows what ownership of a few different planes will cost.
http://corporatejetinvestor.com/articles/the-costs-of-a-business-jet-312/ |
Too many to list, there are plenty, depending on year, make, model, etc:
http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1359905/1974-cessna-citation-500
http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1379593/1973-cessna-citation-500
http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1279537/1974-cessna-citation-500-sp-lw
As I said, they don't all own Gulfstreams, some own lower end older models, and some middle-range.
Importantly, prob most have loan payments or are leased. And they just factor that in as an expense.
Many jet owners only own shares of jets.
Some fly their own planes.
Again costs of payments, maintenance, etc. is relative to income and/or income potential.
I know an evangelist that had his own prop plane, owned property with a landing strip and did his own maintenance. |
Wow. right on target. I really bit the dust on this one. thanks PN |
Just to better clarify myself, the planes belonging to the people in this video are 1.5m to 3.0m each.
Of course, KC Ministries owns their own airport with runway and hangar!
These jets can be purchased for +/- 10,000 per month.
In perspective, that may seem like a lot - but not in their budget - a daily program on TBN is about 500,000 per month...
One famous televangelist recently fell two months behind at TBN - 1,000,000 USD. Now TBN wants to be prepaid their 500,000 per month.
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1/16/16 7:51 pm
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Pastor Nations |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Pastor Nations wrote: | | I know an evangelist that had his own prop plane, owned property with a landing strip and did his own maintenance. |
I didn't know you knowed me, Pastor Nations? Son, what is your real name. Ats me an ma Sopwith you talkin bout aint it? |
Come to think of it, he is from your neck of the woods ... |
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1/16/16 7:52 pm
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