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Post How about some H. Clinton core/sub beliefs Dean Steenburgh
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From the 6th annual Women in the World Summit:

“Far too many women are denied access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth, and laws don’t count for much if they’re not enforced. Rights have to exist in practice — not just on paper,” Clinton said.

Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will,” she explained. “And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed. As I have said and as I believe, the advancement of the full participation of women and girls in every aspect of their societies is the great unfinished business of the 21st century and not just for women but for everyone — and not just in far away countries but right here in the United States.”

Former Secretary of State Clinton’s position is made ironic by an item that appeared in the New York Times’ “By the Book” column from June 2014.

In it, Mrs. Clinton had the following exchange with her interviewer:

If you had to name one book that made you who you are today, what would it be?

At the risk of appearing predictable, the Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking. I was raised reading it, memorizing passages from it and being guided by it. I still find it a source of wisdom, comfort and encouragement.

It would be interesting to know how the Democratic presidential hopeful squares her reverence for the Bible with her sentiment that religious beliefs “have to be changed” on the topic of abortion.

Source: Blaze.com


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And you seriously believe Trump is pro-life? [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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And you seriously believe Trump is pro-life?


I don't know that he's pro-life but he doesn't have a utopian world view of social order where the resources of the laws will be used to carry out reform.


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From LegalInsurrection.com
Go to their website & type in Hillary's core beliefs to watch short clips of her speaking about her own core beliefs.

By the way, her top economic adviser is none other than John Podesta. (I don't even know why this guy lives in America with his love for Putin & Russia).

Here is a snip from an article of theirs regarding the American economy & capitalism:


Vermont’s “independent” “Socialist” Senator Bernie Sanders may have a lock on the left-wing vote but Hillary Clinton is doing everything she can to stop his rise.

In so doing, the ultimate crony capitalist is demonstrating, once again, that she has no core set of beliefs other than in obtaining power. Hillary is adopting Sanders’ platform attacking capitalism not because she believes it, but because she hears Bernie’s footsteps gaining on her in the polls.

In a recent speech at NYU, Hillary Clinton claimed that capitalism needs a reset and proposed changes to capital gains taxes.

Tory Newmyer of Fortune reports:

Hillary Clinton: Capitalism is out of balance, needs a reset

Hillary Clinton wants to hike capital gains taxes as part of her plan to discourage short-term thinking among corporate executives and investors.

The Democratic presidential front-runner laid out her plan to retool the tax treatment of investment earnings on Friday as part of an ongoing series of speeches fleshing out her economic program. She proposed extending from one to two years the period that top earners would need to hang on to an investment before seeing the 39.6% tax rate applied to it start to fall.

And she would lower the rate slowly, over a six year period, down to the 24% rate for longer-term investments — a tweak that she said would help refigure a system that’s bent itself out of shape over the last few decades. Capitalism itself, she said, “needs to be reinvented, it needs to be put back into balance.”


Here are some highlights from Hillary’s speech via Bloomberg. She does say that capitalism is the “greatest engine of economic opportunity” but she also drops a few lefty buzzwords like “shareholder activism” and says she’s looking for “disruptive ideas” to save capitalism.

Here’s the translation for investors; be afraid. Be very afraid.

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Dean are you worried that anyone on this site is remotely interested in voting for Hillary Clinton? Nothing could be further from the truth.

-- edit: I just read QW's statement about Hillary being less evil than Trump, while I don't necessarily share that view, I don't think QW is going to be voting for Hillary either, he can correct me if I'm wrong. I do see where he's coming from though.
Its like in sports when you draft someone you have to draft them not only on what they've done, but what you call their "upside", something you haven't seen yet, but they show the potential for.

in the same way, with politicians, I think you have to look at their upside and their downside as well. With Hillary, there is ZERO upside, but I think all of her "downside" is already on the table, you know what she is going to do.

With Trump, there MAY be some upside if you believe the things he says that make any sense at all. However, there is HUGE (YOOGE) downside potential with him. I don't think there is any way to possibly know what this guy may actually do as President, and some of the things he has said has hinted that there could be some catastrophic things he might do or attempt to do.


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I won't be voting for Hillary. I do see Trump as worse than Hillary. Far worse. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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UncleJD wrote:
Dean are you worried that anyone on this site is remotely interested in voting for Hillary Clinton? Nothing could be further from the truth.


I've been on this talk board for years & I've seen what I deem as a cultural shift, minor as it may be & yes I hear support for her.
When I hear pastors saying that she would make a better president than Trump it surely alarms me. It proves very loud & clear that nobody has seen the real barracuda that she is and can be.

She has a plan to make America the world leader in social, financial & spiritual reform.
I won't do all of the homework but I will help some see her for what she is.
I'm not a Trumpster but he is small potatoes compared to her when it comes to a one world government.

Check her out ...please.
Plenty of people don't want to be told how to vote but they won't take the time to check out who they vote for.
I most likely won't vote for Trump in our June primary but I won't vote for her or Bernie in November no matter what. My view of voting is one I take serious. that as a platform right now.
We have a mandate to elect someone who will protect our freedoms & the democrats don't have I've been to 3rd world nations when they were finally given the right to vote & they never vote liberal once they've tasted socialism.


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Quiet Wyatt wrote:
I won't be voting for Hillary. I do see Trump as worse than Hillary. Far worse.


Can you cite some examples to support your opinion?
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I honestly would like to see one quote from anyone on this board that said they would vote for Hillary. QW said, and I possibly agree, that she is less evil than Trump. That remains to be seen in my opinion, but it doesn't mean anyone would cast a vote for her. However, just because the Republican party throws out a candidate, does not mean that you or I have any obligation whatsoever to vote for them, the inevitability of a two-party-only system is not what American democracy is about. Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere
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UncleJD wrote:
Dean are you worried that anyone on this site is remotely interested in voting for Hillary Clinton? Nothing could be further from the truth.

-- edit: I just read QW's statement about Hillary being less evil than Trump, while I don't necessarily share that view, I don't think QW is going to be voting for Hillary either, he can correct me if I'm wrong. I do see where he's coming from though.
Its like in sports when you draft someone you have to draft them not only on what they've done, but what you call their "upside", something you haven't seen yet, but they show the potential for.

in the same way, with politicians, I think you have to look at their upside and their downside as well. With Hillary, there is ZERO upside, but I think all of her "downside" is already on the table, you know what she is going to do.

With Trump, there MAY be some upside if you believe the things he says that make any sense at all. However, there is HUGE (YOOGE) downside potential with him. I don't think there is any way to possibly know what this guy may actually do as President, and some of the things he has said has hinted that there could be some catastrophic things he might do or attempt to do.



With his downside potential in play do you think this borders on fear mongering? And if so should we be basing our vote on escaping the potential of a downside?
Again I'm not advocating him but I'm really advocating against her.
I see him more of a burglar of social behavior which is repairable.
He has an eye for the economy & military.
But I'm not voting for a moralist this time around even though I hope Cruz or Rubio gain heavily over the next few days.


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UncleJD wrote:
I honestly would like to see one quote from anyone on this board that said they would vote for Hillary. QW said, and I possibly agree, that she is less evil than Trump. That remains to be seen in my opinion, but it doesn't mean anyone would cast a vote for her. However, just because the Republican party throws out a candidate, does not mean that you or I have any obligation whatsoever to vote for them, the inevitability of a two-party-only system is not what American democracy is about.


I said i see "support" ...not votes
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Dean Steenburgh wrote:
Quiet Wyatt wrote:
I won't be voting for Hillary. I do see Trump as worse than Hillary. Far worse.


Can you cite some examples to support your opinion?


Pretty much every time Trump opens his mouth and says anything on any subject.
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Dean Steenburgh wrote:


With his downside potential in play do you think this borders on fear mongering? And if so should we be basing our vote on escaping the potential of a downside?
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fear mongering? I'm nobody so I have no mongering potential, I'm just expressing my opinion, its called free-speech (preachers tend to do it on a weekly basis) and is something that Trump doesn't seem to appreciate if its against him. And heavens yes you should vote to escape a downside if you believe it outweighs the upside, I wish people in Germany had done that in 1938 (and I don't want to use the "H" word and end the debate, but I honestly believe Trump may be the most dangerous candidate to ever run for President in modern times)
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Unfortunately the 2 party system is all we have right now & there isn't enough time to fix that before November unless the popularity of a public figure draws enough people to 'write in' the candidate's name (i.e. Michael Bloomberg)

My convictions are held that unless we vote for one person who actually has the ability to govern via the 2 party system we currently have, the ballot is wasted if not spent on a true winnable candidate.

I have a guy in my church who is brilliant & balanced in every way possible as it pertains to Christianity, military mindset, economics & social behavior, but I know it wouldn't do us any good to write in his name if he's not in the current tide.
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Quiet Wyatt wrote:
Dean Steenburgh wrote:
Quiet Wyatt wrote:
I won't be voting for Hillary. I do see Trump as worse than Hillary. Far worse.


Can you cite some examples to support your opinion?


Pretty much every time Trump opens his mouth and says anything on any subject.


Haha ...nice try Laughing
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UncleJD wrote:
Dean Steenburgh wrote:


With his downside potential in play do you think this borders on fear mongering? And if so should we be basing our vote on escaping the potential of a downside?
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fear mongering? I'm nobody so I have no mongering potential, I'm just expressing my opinion, its called free-speech (preachers tend to do it on a weekly basis) and is something that Trump doesn't seem to appreciate if its against him. And heavens yes you should vote to escape a downside if you believe it outweighs the upside, I wish people in Germany had done that in 1938 (and I don't want to use the "H" word and end the debate, but I honestly believe Trump may be the most dangerous candidate to ever run for President in modern times)


The 'H' word is not a debate killer for me but I'm still amused at the injections of dangerous credited to a man who hasn't done anything evil other than oversee the filing of BK for his corporations.

It's easier for me I guess. I'm at ease voting for the major candidate who will oppose Hillary in the general election, be it Cruz, Rubio or ...even Trump.


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There is nothing necessary to 'cite.' His own words and his own history testify plainly as to the kind of monstrous man he is. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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Quiet Wyatt wrote:
There is nothing necessary to 'cite.' His own words and his own history testify plainly as to the kind of monstrous man he is.


Just a request QW ...just a request.
I thought you might have had something with more substance other than watching clips on the news.


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Dean Steenburgh wrote:
Unfortunately the 2 party system is all we have right now & there isn't enough time to fix that before November unless the popularity of a public figure draws enough people to 'write in' the candidate's name (i.e. Michael Bloomberg)

My convictions are held that unless we vote for one person who actually has the ability to govern via the 2 party system we currently have, the ballot is wasted if not spent on a true winnable candidate.

I have a guy in my church who is brilliant & balanced in every way possible as it pertains to Christianity, military mindset, economics & social behavior, but I know it wouldn't do us any good to write in his name if he's not in the current tide.
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Your point stands as long as one of the two candidates offers something that makes you feel they would be better than the other. In the last 7 election cycles that I have been old enough to vote, I have had to chose the "lesser of two evils" at least 3 times (Dole, McCain and Romney). In each of those I was able to find some good things about the candidates and honestly did not feel I had to actually fear for my country if they won. This time is completely different, I can find no reason in my heart to vote for a man that I feel may destroy us all either economically, morally, or through war. Sorry, this time it doesn't work out for me. Unless God moves on my heart to change my mind I won't be voting for Trump (should he win the nomination). I have prayed about the decision, I hope you have too.
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Sad. You are obviously willfully ignorant of what Trump is all about. Nothing I could cite for you would change your mind. Like I said, Trump's record/life speaks for itself. Anyone who thinks Trump is a conservative is unconscionably ignorant of the facts. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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