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Are most of your sermons exhortation, inspiration, or manipulation? |
roughridercog |
Plus how about the ones your listen to on TV or at conventions?
Though this would make good discussion. _________________ Doctor of Bovinamodulation |
Acts Mod Posts: 25306 1/2/19 8:57 am
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Re: Are most of your sermons exhortation, inspiration, or manipulation? |
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roughridercog wrote: | Plus how about the ones your listen to on TV or at conventions?
Though this would make good discussion. |
I've grown weary of the standard Pentecostal "sermonizing". The John MacArthur approach of a continual commentary on the Bible, chapter-by-chapter, verse-by-verse, with minimal illustrations, has become very appealing to me. _________________ "It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves UPCI |
Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 1/2/19 10:51 am
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Quiet Wyatt |
I prefer the expository approach above all. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12802 1/2/19 11:04 am
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A question |
roughridercog |
Quiet Wyatt wrote: | I prefer the expository approach above all. |
Cannot expository preaching fall into one of these three categories ? _________________ Doctor of Bovinamodulation |
Acts Mod Posts: 25306 1/2/19 11:06 am
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Re: A question |
Quiet Wyatt |
roughridercog wrote: | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | I prefer the expository approach above all. |
Cannot expository preaching fall into one of these three categories ? |
Expository preaching aims to expound upon a particular passage, in context, within one sermon. It would depend, to a large degree, upon the passage as to whether the sermon itself might be inspirational, etc. In my experience, the expository approach can’t be limited to the categories you list, any more than the Scriptures can be limited in that way. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12802 1/2/19 11:13 am
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Re: A question |
roughridercog |
Quiet Wyatt wrote: | roughridercog wrote: | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | I prefer the expository approach above all. |
Cannot expository preaching fall into one of these three categories ? |
Expository preaching aims to expound upon a particular passage, in context, within one sermon. It would depend, to a large degree, upon the passage as to whether the sermon itself might be inspirational, etc. In my experience, the expository approach can’t be limited to the categories you list, any more than the Scriptures can be limited in that way. |
Maybe it depends on what the motivation of the speaker is. Exactly what does he want his preaching to accomplish. _________________ Doctor of Bovinamodulation |
Acts Mod Posts: 25306 1/2/19 1:29 pm
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Cojak |
On the receiving end, in the pew, I prefer the INSPIRATIONAL! When I used to listen to the radio traveling at nights, it seemed the Radio preachers were 'manipulative.'
I have known COG preachers who seemed to 'throw out the guilt trip' a lot, I assume that is manipulative.
As a member I appreciate the 'expository' delivery. And yes that too can be manipulation if used to get to a predetermined personal desired end. I haven't noticed in our pastors. _________________ Some facts but mostly just my opinion!
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24282 1/2/19 8:03 pm
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Preacher777 |
I prefer expository preaching as my normal way of presenting the Word. I do not guilt people into attending our prayer meetings but let the Word challenge the truth of walking in the Spirit rather than letting our flesh and soulish realm dominate us.
My main objective is to preach/reach the Word in a manner that allows the Holy Spirit to convict and encourage people to continually praise God, read the Word and pray as a way of life. I try my best to preach, teach and lead by example with the simplicity of overflowing with the Holy Spirit and letting the fruits of the spirit flow from us. |
Friendly Face Posts: 434 1/3/19 8:20 am
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Re: A question |
Quiet Wyatt |
roughridercog wrote: | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | roughridercog wrote: | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | I prefer the expository approach above all. |
Cannot expository preaching fall into one of these three categories ? |
Expository preaching aims to expound upon a particular passage, in context, within one sermon. It would depend, to a large degree, upon the passage as to whether the sermon itself might be inspirational, etc. In my experience, the expository approach can’t be limited to the categories you list, any more than the Scriptures can be limited in that way. |
Maybe it depends on what the motivation of the speaker is. Exactly what does he want his preaching to accomplish. |
The goal of expository preaching is to produce biblically well-informed disciples of Christ, who are themselves able interpret the Scriptures in context, properly handling the word of truth. I suppose some may have an agenda other than expounding the Scriptures, but such would be a real betrayal of the core concept of expository preaching itself. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12802 1/3/19 9:41 am
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Re: A question |
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Quiet Wyatt wrote: | roughridercog wrote: | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | roughridercog wrote: | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | I prefer the expository approach above all. |
Cannot expository preaching fall into one of these three categories ? |
Expository preaching aims to expound upon a particular passage, in context, within one sermon. It would depend, to a large degree, upon the passage as to whether the sermon itself might be inspirational, etc. In my experience, the expository approach can’t be limited to the categories you list, any more than the Scriptures can be limited in that way. |
Maybe it depends on what the motivation of the speaker is. Exactly what does he want his preaching to accomplish. |
The goal of expository preaching is to produce biblically well-informed disciples of Christ, who are themselves able interpret the Scriptures in context, properly handling the word of truth. I suppose some may have an agenda other than expounding the Scriptures, but such would be a real betrayal of the core concept of expository preaching itself. |
I am persuaded there are some preachers who feel threatened by biblically well-informed disciples of Christ, who are themselves able interpret the Scriptures in context, properly handling the word of truth. _________________ "It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves UPCI |
Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 1/3/19 1:43 pm
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Da Sheik |
Whatever it takes to get 'em into the altar |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1860 1/3/19 2:58 pm
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I've been studying messages and sermons |
roughridercog |
It's amazing how many I've examined are manipulative. _________________ Doctor of Bovinamodulation |
Acts Mod Posts: 25306 1/3/19 7:12 pm
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Re: I've been studying messages and sermons |
Quiet Wyatt |
roughridercog wrote: | It's amazing how many I've examined are manipulative. |
What do you mean by manipulative? |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12802 1/3/19 7:52 pm
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Re: I've been studying messages and sermons |
roughridercog |
Quiet Wyatt wrote: | roughridercog wrote: | It's amazing how many I've examined are manipulative. |
What do you mean by manipulative? |
Endeavoring to get an individual or group to bend to your wishes. While the wishes may not be inherently evil, they may be man centered, an appeal for more money, aa vote to go a certain way, etc. just spitballing examples off the top of my head. _________________ Doctor of Bovinamodulation |
Acts Mod Posts: 25306 1/3/19 9:49 pm
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Do you find the most shallow preaching... |
roughridercog |
Is topical preaching while expository preaching has more depth and produces more lasting benefits? _________________ Doctor of Bovinamodulation |
Acts Mod Posts: 25306 1/4/19 7:35 am
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Preacher777 |
I believe topical preaching tends to appeal to the "watch Christian TV mentality to be spoon fed what I need to know about God." I feel expository teaching allows me to incorporate the basics of hermeneutics, historical background and context. One of my goals in preaching is to teach and stir people up on ways to properly study and interpret scripture on their own. Therefore, I do believe expository preaching has more depth. |
Friendly Face Posts: 434 1/4/19 8:17 am
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Expository preaching through a book is great |
roughridercog |
It allows for continuity, consistent learning, and no one can accuse you of aiming at them. If someone gets hit, that topic would have been coming for a period of time and no one but God would have known they were going to be there this morning. _________________ Doctor of Bovinamodulation |
Acts Mod Posts: 25306 1/5/19 8:17 am
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Re: Expository preaching through a book is great |
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roughridercog wrote: | It allows for continuity, consistent learning, and no one can accuse you of aiming at them. If someone gets hit, that topic would have been coming for a period of time and no one but God would have known they were going to be there this morning. |
I agree 100%. However, it should also be noted also that "expository" doesn't mean you have to go through an entire book. To "exposit" is simply to explain or describe the meaning of the text. So with that said, I think there is a place for topical preaching as long as texts are not completely removed from their immediate context. Otherwise one would never be able to preach from the book of Proverbs. Try doing a series verse-by-verse through Proverbs and report back to me
I prefer the method you're suggesting Rough. Just wanted to add some counterpoint. I see church signs which advertise "expository preaching" and I know what they mean. They're going through a book of the bible one chapter at a time. But true expository preaching is not limited to that. Some of those same churches that boast of "expository preaching" also have KJV 1611 on the signs |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1860 1/5/19 11:57 am
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