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Post Some hate it when i point this out...(L) Resident Skeptic
….but you need to open your eyes.



NO MORE MR. WHITE GUY

September 26, 2018

“They know the optics of 11 white men questioning Dr. Ford ... will be so harmful and so damaging to the GOP.” -- Areva Martin, CNN legal analyst

“They understand that you have all of these white men who would be questioning this woman ... the optics of it would look terrible.” -- Gloria Borger, CNN chief political analyst

“Women across this nation should be outraged at what these white men senators are doing to this woman.” -- Rep. John Garamendi, D-Calif.

“There has been some discussion of the GOP senators who happened to all be ... white men.” -- Jim Sciutto, CNN correspondent

“What troubles me is now there are ... they’re all white men.” -- Jennifer Granholm, former governor of Michigan, on CNN

”You’re seeing on display a metaphor for what this party is, which is basically ignorant white men.” -- “Morning Joe” contributor Donny Deutsch

“All these white men ... stumbling all over themselves asking her, you know, aggressive and obnoxious questions.” -- Asha Rangappa, CNN analyst

“What are those -- that collection of old white men going to do?” -- Cynthia Alksne, MSNBC contributor

“If she testifies in front of the Judiciary Committee, where 11 members are white men ...” -- Susan Del Percio, Republican political strategist, on MSNBC

“Once again, it will be all white men on the Republican side of the Judiciary Committee.” -- CNN anchor Poppy Harlow

“The optics for Republicans are going to be really tricky ... You’ve got all white men on the Republican side here ...” -- Julie Pace, Washington bureau chief for The Associated Press, on CNN

“The Republicans, it happens to be 11 white men still on that side.” -- CNN host John Berman

“The Republicans, it is 11 white men, talk to me about how you think the tone inside this hearing on Monday will be perceived?" -- Berman, a few minutes later


“On the Republican side, all 11 are white men.” -- Berman, again, same show, several minutes later

“What hasn’t changed is the number of white men questioning, certainly, on the Republican side.” -- Dana Bash, CNN chief political correspondent

“The Republican side on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all white men ...” -- Irin Carmon, senior correspondent for New York Magazine, on MSNBC

“Only this crowd of clueless old white guys ...” -- The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin on Twitter

Let me begin by saying these commentators are making a brilliant and totally ORIGINAL point, the plain truth of which is outshone only by, as I’ve said, its sheer no-one-has-ever-made-that-observation-before-ness.

As the Supreme Court confirmation hearing resumes this week for Judge Brett Kavanaugh, it’s clear that the Republicans are simply too white to get the job done. I suggest the Republicans sign up some outside help, the way baseball teams make late-season acquisitions of pitchers and designated hitters for the playoffs.

Some suggestions (note: not all of the following individuals are Republicans, but none has any partisan profile that I am aware of):

1. The Rev. Al Sharpton (Tawana Brawley affair demonstrates that he believes women).

2. Bill Cosby (extensive, up-close experience with victims of sexual assault, albeit from a rapist’s, rather than a “rapee’s” perspective).

3. Keith Ellison (likely good rapport with committee Democrats; has own transportation to Capitol Building).

4. Matias Reyes (would undoubtedly throw himself into committee’s work as pleasant change of pace from prison).

5. Sorry, I don’t remember the gentleman’s name, but that guy who kidnapped and raped the Columbia student, poured bleach on her and Krazy-Glued her lips shut. (This one is sort of a "wild card," I admit; he could be absolutely great, or, judging by his history of poor impulse control, he could be too emotionally unstable to handle the committee’s important work; definitely a Person of Color, though; that I’m sure about.)

6. Alton Maddox, attorney for black youth hired by Jewish landlord to slash a model’s face because she refused to date him. Maddox pioneered novel “she’s a manipulative slut who had it coming” defense. (Close relationship with the Rev. Sharpton a definite plus.)

7. Lakireddy Bali Reddy, entrepreneurial Indian immigrant with strong experience with underage rape victims, having brought little girls to the U.S. purchased from their poverty-stricken parents in India as his private sex slaves. (His presence may bring Asha Rangappa on board.)

Seriously, if feminists want to make the point that only female senators have any business conducting these hearings, they have a logical point, albeit an idiotic one.

Of course, the last time feminists bet big on women being certain allies in the fight against misogyny, they were the women of the O.J. jury.

Still, I get the logic of demanding women interlocutors.

But what is the thinking behind snickering at “white men” judging an accusation of sexual assault? Chuck Grassley is a big rapist?

You can be for rape or against it -- I happen to be against it -- but the idea that alleged sexual assault survivors need the loving care of black, Indian or Hispanic men to judge their stories flies in the face of crime statistics from around the globe.

In the history of the world, there has never been a more pacific, less rapey creature than the white male of Western European descent.

I realize it gives The New York Times’ editorial board (recent acquisition: Sarah Jeong) warm feelings every time someone throws in the word “white” as an intensifier, denoting extra hatefulness, but really, guys, it’s getting old.

Can we please, for the love of God, drop the painfully trite, mind-numbing cliche about “white men,” as if somehow their whiteness makes evil even eviler?

COPYRIGHT 2018 ANN COULTER
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http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-09-26.html
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Coulter correctly points out the racism of the left, then follows it with an article that is seething with racism and white supremacy.

If only there was a way to point out how the left stirs up racial animus and hatred without also stirring up racial animus and hatred. I think the latter is why people "hate it" when you get on this topic, not the former.
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Dave Dorsey wrote:
Coulter correctly points out the racism of the left, then follows it with an article that is seething with racism and white supremacy.

I am sincerely trying to understand your perception and perspective, Dave. Please point out where Coulter was racist or seething with white supremacy, by definition. Where did she advocate the idea that the white race is genetically superior inherently to other races. Where did she advocate discrimination based on race?

If only there was a way to point out how the left stirs up racial animus and hatred without also stirring up racial animus and hatred. I think the latter is why people "hate it" when you get on this topic, not the former.

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"In the history of the world, there has never been a more pacific, less rapey creature than the white male of Western European descent."

That's crystal clear white supremacy. She's saying that white males are more peaceful and "less rapey" than other races; by necessity she is saying that people of color are more violent and rape people more often.

"But muh crime statistics!" -- throwing out random statistics and correlating them to race, rather than the thousand other involved causes, is also a go-to trick of white supremacists.
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Dave Dorsey wrote:
"In the history of the world, there has never been a more pacific, less rapey creature than the white male of Western European descent."

That's crystal clear white supremacy. She's saying that white males are more peaceful and "less rapey" than other races; by necessity she is saying that people of color are more violent and rape people more often.

"But muh crime statistics!" -- throwing out random statistics and correlating them to race, rather than the thousand other involved causes, is also a go-to trick of white supremacists.


That is not "supremacy". That's like saying it's black supremacy by saying blacks overall are better at basketball than whites. She is not citing any inherent trait in men of any race that makes them more or less prone to rape. Rather, she is pushing back against the insinuation of the left that WHITE men ARE more prone to rape and thus have no right to comment. Stats and history do indeed refute the accusation made by the left against white men.
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She's literally saying that white people are less violent and rape less. That is the exact same thing as saying people of color are more violent and rape more. If A > B, then B < A.

Does that mean she's a white supremacist? No. But if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.
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Dave Dorsey wrote:
She's literally saying that white people are less violent and rape less. That is the exact same thing as saying people of color are more violent and rape more. If A > B, then B < A.

Does that mean she's a white supremacist? No. But if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.


Again, what do you call the accusations that white men ARE more prone to violence and rape? Do you have a name for that?

It is the above attack on white men that Coulter is reacting to. And if history or stats show the exact opposite of the accusations being made against white men, how is that "white supremacy"? In Europe, for example, rape is rampant and very few are committed by white men. Now Dave, either that is a statement of fact or it is not. How am I a "white supremacists by simply stating a fact?
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Again, what do you call the accusations that white men ARE more prone to violence and rape? Do you have a name for that?

There really isn't a commonplace opposite of "white supremacy" if that's what you're asking. I'd probably just call it racism.

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And if history or stats show the exact opposite of the accusations being made against white men, how is that "white supremacy"? In Europe, for example, rape is rampant and very few are committed by white men. Now Dave, either that is a statement of fact or it is not. How am I a "white supremacists by simply stating a fact?

You answered this in your initial question to me. The magic word here is "prone". If you are talking about crime statistics, you're talking about facts. If you're suggesting that a particular crime statistic suggests that an Arab or an African-American is "prone" to rape, you're a racist. It's a factual statement that, in Europe for example, migrants commit more rapes/crimes than European citizens. It's a factual statement that in most cases crime is higher in predominantly black areas than in predominantly white areas. There are a thousand interrelated reasons for this, and discussion about these facts and their causes is a crucial part of discussing how these disparities might be assisted or resolved.

However, to the white supremacist, there's only one cause. They would say crime is higher in predominantly black areas because black people are there, and lower in predominantly white areas because black people aren't there. That's not only repulsive and racist, it's incredibly stupid and betrays a profoundly low level of understanding about the complex network of causes of economic disparity and uneven opportunities. One might even propose that white people have a certain... what word would be appropriate here... privilege, maybe, because they tend not to be correlated with the huge number of potentially causal disparities that are present in minority communities. But that's another post. Smile

Anyway, if you're making a "statement of fact", more power to you. However, it's been my experience that when certain people make these "statements of fact" it is always for one singular purpose, and that's to suggest that race is the predominant or only cause for a given "statement of fact". Maybe Coulter is making a "statement of fact". But she's talking and walking like a duck, IMO.
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Again, what do you call the accusations that white men ARE more prone to violence and rape? Do you have a name for that?

There really isn't a commonplace opposite of "white supremacy" if that's what you're asking. I'd probably just call it racism.

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And if history or stats show the exact opposite of the accusations being made against white men, how is that "white supremacy"? In Europe, for example, rape is rampant and very few are committed by white men. Now Dave, either that is a statement of fact or it is not. How am I a "white supremacists by simply stating a fact?

You answered this in your initial question to me. The magic word here is "prone". If you are talking about crime statistics, you're talking about facts. If you're suggesting that a particular crime statistic suggests that an Arab or an African-American is "prone" to rape, you're a racist. It's a factual statement that, in Europe for example, migrants commit more rapes/crimes than European citizens. It's a factual statement that in most cases crime is higher in predominantly black areas than in predominantly white areas. There are a thousand interrelated reasons for this, and discussion about these facts and their causes is a crucial part of discussing how these disparities might be assisted or resolved.

However, to the white supremacist, there's only one cause. They would say crime is higher in predominantly black areas because black people are there, and lower in predominantly white areas because black people aren't there. That's not only repulsive and racist, it's incredibly stupid and betrays a profoundly low level of understanding about the complex network of causes of economic disparity and uneven opportunities. One might even propose that white people have a certain... what word would be appropriate here... privilege, maybe, because they tend not to be correlated with the huge number of potentially causal disparities that are present in minority communities. But that's another post. Smile

Anyway, if you're making a "statement of fact", more power to you. However, it's been my experience that when certain people make these "statements of fact" it is always for one singular purpose, and that's to suggest that race is the predominant or only cause for a given "statement of fact". Maybe Coulter is making a "statement of fact". But she's talking and walking like a duck, IMO.


I actually agree with 99% of what you say here. However, I simply do not see Coulter doing what you accuse her of. I actually think she would agree with you and is only making a "do you really want to go there?" jab at the left.
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Dave Dorsey wrote:
"In the history of the world, there has never been a more pacific, less rapey creature than the white male of Western European descent."

That's crystal clear white supremacy. She's saying that white males are more peaceful and "less rapey" than other races; by necessity she is saying that people of color are more violent and rape people more often.


Not so. If white men and men of color are equally unrapey, then her statement could be true.
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The extreme left has this philosophy that whites and males and especially white males are not to be listened to, at least on certain issues, because they aren't disadvantaged enough. I wonder if this is the type of thinking folks at CNN and those other commentators quoted above have.

Do you think your average, middle of the road American, sees a bunch of white senators questioning this woman, and is somehow offended by their being white and male? Does it really look bad to most people to see white males from the Congress or Senate on TV? Or is this just the thinking of these left-wing journalists?

Do white women tend to think this way?
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Its all "divide and conquer". Isolate the majority of the other party, make them villains, so you can try to pry the others in that party out of it or at least discourage their participation in the process. But that's fine, we're due for this because we believe whatever we hear from the media. Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere
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But that's fine, we're due for this because we believe whatever we hear from the media.

He might have been saying it for disingenuous, self-serving reasons... but DJT was right when he called this cabal the enemy of the American people. A free and fair press is the cornerstone of democracy. We only have one of the two.
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