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Loran Livingston says about the Faith Message .."Don't Be Deceived" L

Acts-dicted Posts: 7766 **9/19/18 2:33 pm**

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https://www.youtube.com/watchv=KS2hD85Vwis&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Loran Livingston says about the Faith Message .."Don't Be Deceived" L

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https://youtu.be/KS2hD85Vwis

It was a great message.
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Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1860 **9/21/18 12:33 pm**

I wish he would tell us how he really feels Laughing

Iâ€™m no fan of the WOF movement, but to say that they are going to die in their sins is a bit extreme to me. But I definitely agree with the sentiment of his message.

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Great statement in the iintroduction

Friendly Face Posts: 434 **9/22/18 9:49 am**

Pastor Loran Livingston proclaimed a much needed message in his introduction stating that a pastor needs to be a shepherd and warn the congregation about false doctrines. I gained a lot of respect for his desire to please God and fear Him rather than men. I am sure that Loran and other pastors realize that these days churches draw people with a variety of beliefs. Pastor Livingston was willing to risk losing attendees by sharing his convictions.

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Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1021 **9/22/18 11:43 am**

The page has been taken down on youtube..

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Re: Great statement in the iintroduction

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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5909 **9/23/18 7:30 pm**

I haven't watched it yet, but it worked for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS2hD85Vwis&feature=youtu.be
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Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **9/24/18 11:28 am**

I skipped around and watch part of it. He said if you believed what some of these teachers believed, you'd be damned. He mentioned Joyce Meyers. What was his reason for this? In the part of the sermon I watched, that wasn't clear. It seemed like he was arguing that the reason was because preachers were supposed to teach the full counsel of God's word and not be specialists in one area.

Does it follow that if Paul taught the full counsel of God's word, that some lesser gifted teacher might not be a specialist? I don't see where the Bible condemns having people who specialize in end-times, for example, or teaching on the cross or the resurrection. I think a lot of us have areas where we teach more and in more depth than others. How is that a bad thing?

IMO, it makes more sense to give actual quotes if you are going to expose someone's teaching and name names.

I don't see a good Biblical case for being against 'self help.' Self help stuff does not necessarily have to focus on digging up the old man and is not necessarily contrary to the idea of dying daily, etc.

I do see a problem if people go to church and hear self-help all the time and NOT the gospel. The self-help stuff might not be bad, per se. A lecture on what vitamins are in what foods may be helpful. It's just not going to reconcile anyone with God and probably won't edify them in their faith, either.

If someone wants to
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