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Can You Vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson? (link)

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 **7/6/16 2:27 pm**

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

I have thought about possibly voting libertarian for the first time ever.

After reading the above link it would be very hard for me to vote for him. His views on abortion are just too liberal. I think it says something about him fundamentally that I just cannot support.

I agree with most of the things he says about the economy, taxes, etc. and I know I should not let one issue cloud my judgment, but the main reason we declared our independence as a nation was because the founders saw the evident truths of God "all men are created equal and are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Guess I will have to hold my nose and vote Trump. Just hope he gets a good VP

c6thplayer1

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6385 **7/6/16 3:11 pm**

Of course abortion is important , but how many anti-abortion politicians have done anything about it in past years and years.... none... It will never be addressed because it will lose votes.

Brandon Bowers

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4804 **7/6/16 3:45 pm**

You will find that most Libertarians are fiscally conservative and socially moderate or liberal.

Very much "enjoy your gay and your guns", as long as I keep my money type of party.

I'm not registered with any party, but I lean this way quite a bit.

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diakoneo

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 **7/6/16 4:00 pm**

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UncleJD

UncleJD · Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3147 **7/6/16 4:08 pm**

I'm very disappointed that the Libertarian party didn't run a more Ron Paul type Libertarian this time, they missed their chance to cash in on the HORRIBLE candidates from BOTH major parties.

I agree it would be hard to vote for Johnson based on his abortion views, however as a true Libertarian, he would also support state's rights when it came to abortion laws and be completely against tax dollars going to fund it (or anything else).

Liberty is a framework that can work for everyone. It pretty much says, leave everyone alone, pass very few new laws, lower taxes, shrink government, end foreign welfare, uphold the bill of rights, let free enterprise work.

I will consider voting for him if he is doing well in the polls in November, but I think the Libertarian party really missed the boat on their candidate, I guess that's 3 for 3 Sad

Eddie Robbins

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 **7/6/16 4:12 pm**

Can I? Of course. I am voting for him. No candidate believes 100% like I do. Most Americans are Libertartian in beliefs. They just don't have the guts to vote that way. I have and I will.

UncleJD

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3147 **7/6/16 4:16 pm**

To illustrate how even socially liberal Libertarians usually see it, notice these 2 bullets on his abortion views.

Don't require insurers to provide birth control. (May 2012)
No federal funding for stem cell research.

Cojak

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Re: Can You Vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson? (link)

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **7/6/16 8:55 pm**

Yes, you can vote for Gary Johnson, which will be vote for Hillary.

Cojak

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **7/6/16 10:59 pm**

I WILL vote for him, but only if he sky rockets and appears to be able to defeat Hillary. My only hesitation would be the SCOTUS appointees coming up, not sure of that, but I would guess they would be better than Hillary would appoint. Embarassed

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Eddie Robbins

Re: Can You Vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson? (link)

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 **7/7/16 6:01 am**

Da Sheik

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1865 **7/7/16 6:55 am**

The reality of government in America, is that we have a two-party system. Democrats are much more unified. Bernie surprised me with the support he received, but his followers will vote for Hillary, regardless of the rhetoric they spilled when he dropped out.

My dad was black (African-American for the politically correct). Just like people in the Bible Belt are born Christians, black people are born Democrat. Of the African-Americans in my church, I would say probably 90% of them will vote for HC regardless of what she says or does. She is the Democratic nominee so they will "pull the lever " straight party every time.

What I also find interesting is that none of my friends admit to voting for Trump in the primaries (I voted for Cruz), and yet he won the GOP nomination by a landslide. So somebody wanted him. This is going to be an interesting election season. Would I vote for a 3rd party candidate ? Not until they have a fighting chance. You might as well write your own name on the ballet and cast a vote for yourself.

Eddie Robbins

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 **7/7/16 7:15 am**

A vote for the Libertarian is not a vote assuming there is a chance to win. It is a vote for relevancy for the future. The majority of the people are Libertarian. They just won't vote that way for fear their vote doesn't count for anything. But, it does. Writing in my name doesn't. One of the issues is that the media decides who to allow in the debates. That is a crock. In the Republican debates, candidates with 5% were allowed in. The media has given you Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Next, they will give you Hillary. The fix was in and people drank the kook-aid.

diakoneo

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 **7/7/16 6:45 pm**

Johnson's immigration ideals leave a lot to be desired as well. It seems he is an open borders guy.

Not crazy about that at all.