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c6thplayer1 |
Keeps ringing in my head;
Republican or Democrat ?
Definition of insanity
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. |
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5/26/16 2:12 pm
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UncleJD |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | Keeps ringing in my head;
Republican or Democrat ?
Definition of insanity
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. |
So true. I wish someone with real appeal would show up on the Libertarian ticket. Its too late for any other party I think, May 29 is the deadline for new parties in Texas at least. |
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5/26/16 2:19 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Sometimes, you vote for your guy even if you know they don't have a chance. Just like you do at the Assembly. 😂 |
Eddie, the ole timer don't vote at the Assembly for Democrats, Independents or Libertarians. If I knowed a feller was a registered Democrat, it wouldn't matter:
How good he could preach
How loud his preachin was
Whether or not he wore a bow tie
How slick his hair was
How many skills folk said he had
Etc...................
If I knowed he was a registered Democrat, he WOULD NOT git OTCP's vote. |
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5/26/16 2:31 pm
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Eddie Robbins |
| UncleJD wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | Keeps ringing in my head;
Republican or Democrat ?
Definition of insanity
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. |
So true. I wish someone with real appeal would show up on the Libertarian ticket. Its too late for any other party I think, May 29 is the deadline for new parties in Texas at least. |
The Libertarian convention is this weekend. Gary Johnson is likely to get the nod, but it would have been sweet if Rand Paul had joined the party. |
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5/26/16 2:38 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | Keeps ringing in my head;
Republican or Democrat ?
Definition of insanity
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. |
I feel the exact same way. Though I've never been a registered Republican, I've always voted for the most conservative candidate available, kind of a lesser of two evils thing. With Trump, I see absolutely no upside, no genuine conservatism, nothing trustworthy in him whatsoever. Of course I likewise see nothing trustworthy in Hillary, and could never vote for her in good conscience, either. So I may just sit this one out this time. Whichever of these two evil scumbags gets elected, I can truthfully say I gave my vote to neither of them. NeverTrump and NeverHillary and NeverBernie. That's where I'm at and doubtless will be on Election Day. |
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5/26/16 2:44 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Though I've never been a registered Republican, I've always voted for the most conservative candidate available, kind of a lesser of two evils thing. |
Wyatt, son, please don't tell the ole timer you a registered Democrat. You aint are ya? |
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5/26/16 2:50 pm
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UncleJD |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: |
The Libertarian convention is this weekend. Gary Johnson is likely to get the nod, but it would have been sweet if Rand Paul had joined the party. |
Agreed, it really seems like they are missing the chance here. It would be a no-brainer for me. |
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5/26/16 2:52 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Though I've never been a registered Republican, I've always voted for the most conservative candidate available, kind of a lesser of two evils thing. |
Wyatt, son, please don't tell the ole timer you a registered Democrat. You aint are ya? |
Lol. Nope. I've never been registered with any party. I can't stomach the Democrat platform, and I cannot believe the GOP leadership really means what they say in theirs, particularly with regard to pro-life and the sanctity of marriage. |
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5/26/16 2:56 pm
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c6thplayer1 |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Sometimes, you vote for your guy even if you know they don't have a chance. Just like you do at the Assembly. 😂 |
Eddie, the ole timer don't vote at the Assembly for Democrats, Independents or Libertarians. If I knowed a feller was a registered Democrat, it wouldn't matter:
How good he could preach
How loud his preachin was
Whether or not he wore a bow tie
How slick his hair was
How many skills folk said he had
Etc...................
If I knowed he was a registered Democrat, he WOULD NOT git OTCP's vote. |
But what if the assembly only offered two Democrats? |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology
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5/26/16 3:00 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Though I've never been a registered Republican, I've always voted for the most conservative candidate available, kind of a lesser of two evils thing. |
Wyatt, son, please don't tell the ole timer you a registered Democrat. You aint are ya? |
Lol. Nope. I've never been registered with any party. I can't stomach the Democrat platform, and I cannot believe the GOP leadership really means what they say in theirs, particularly with regard to pro-life and the sanctity of marriage. |
Whewwwwwwwwwwwww, son am I glad to hear it.  |
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5/26/16 6:06 pm
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | I'm not sure Trump will nominate better justices than Hillary. Justices do change their philosophies once they are there. Take a look at history. Some liberal justices were nominated by conservative presidents. And Trump is no conservative. Libertartian for me! |
That's a straw man.
Trump has listed his justices. Are they better or worse that the ones Hillary will nominate?
Some conservative starting justices have turned liberal.
But which liberal justices have ever turned conservative?
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5/26/16 7:33 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Sometimes, you vote for your guy even if you know they don't have a chance. Just like you do at the Assembly. 😂 |
Eddie, the ole timer don't vote at the Assembly for Democrats, Independents or Libertarians. If I knowed a feller was a registered Democrat, it wouldn't matter:
How good he could preach
How loud his preachin was
Whether or not he wore a bow tie
How slick his hair was
How many skills folk said he had
Etc...................
If I knowed he was a registered Democrat, he WOULD NOT git OTCP's vote. |
But what if the assembly only offered two Democrats? |
I'd yell for "Division of the House." |
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5/26/16 8:34 pm
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bonnie knox |
But the guy is right on the money when he says that anybody who says "if you don't vote for Trump, you're voting for Hillary" is assuming that the Republican candidate had his vote in the first place.
| Tom Sterbens wrote: | | The logic of the article is subjective/conditional. |
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5/27/16 9:03 am
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UncleJD |
| Tom Sterbens wrote: | | The logic of the article is subjective/conditional. |
As is the logic of the "if you don't vote for Trump its the same as a vote for Hillary" argument.
The only objective truth in this is that if you don't vote for one candidate, you don't help that candidate. |
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5/27/16 9:16 am
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Quiet Wyatt |
| I find the article expresses precisely what my thoughts, subjective as they may be, are concerning the unacceptable standard choices in this election. If Trump were trustworthy and a substantively better, genuinely more conservative candidate than Hillary, the absurd argument that not voting for Trump is a vote for Hillary might actually have some traction for me. The standard tack of the GOP at this point in the cycle is to basically say conservatives should hold their nose and vote for the liberal GOP candidate, simply because he is somewhat less liberal then the Democrat candidate. But that is a profoundly unintelligent and ultimately self-defeating approach as far as I can tell. |
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5/27/16 10:57 am
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DrDuck |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Tom Sterbens wrote: | | The logic of the article is subjective/conditional. |
As is the logic of the "if you don't vote for Trump its the same as a vote for Hillary" argument.
The only objective truth in this is that if you don't vote for one candidate, you don't help that candidate. |
So then if follows that if you don't vote for a candidate you then are contributing to circumstances which will of necessity help the cause of the other contender. |
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5/27/16 12:05 pm
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UncleJD |
| DrDuck wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Tom Sterbens wrote: | | The logic of the article is subjective/conditional. |
As is the logic of the "if you don't vote for Trump its the same as a vote for Hillary" argument.
The only objective truth in this is that if you don't vote for one candidate, you don't help that candidate. |
So then if follows that if you don't vote for a candidate you then are contributing to circumstances which will of necessity help the cause of the other contender. |
only if you assume you would actually prefer one over the other. Otherwise it is truly net-zero |
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5/27/16 12:48 pm
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DrDuck |
| UncleJD wrote: | | DrDuck wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Tom Sterbens wrote: | | The logic of the article is subjective/conditional. |
As is the logic of the "if you don't vote for Trump its the same as a vote for Hillary" argument.
The only objective truth in this is that if you don't vote for one candidate, you don't help that candidate. |
So then if follows that if you don't vote for a candidate you then are contributing to circumstances which will of necessity help the cause of the other contender. |
only if you assume you would actually prefer one over the other. Otherwise it is truly net-zero |
Who your preference may be has absolutely nothing to do with the impact you action will have on the ultimate outcome. Nada, none. |
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5/27/16 8:03 pm
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bonnie knox |
| Well, Dr. Duck, if I preferred Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump, but didn't vote, am I contributing to circumstances that help Hillary or Trump? |
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5/27/16 9:00 pm
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Eddie Robbins |
| One less vote for a candidate A is not one vote for candidate B. It is simply one less vote for candidate A. The math doesn't work that way. |
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5/28/16 5:48 am
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