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Post Re: You don't think ... Old Time Country Preacher
Mat wrote:
You don't think you saying, "Lookin at the leadership of the COGMA, it looks like AJT and the COGOP. Them Walden boys has got the executive leadership wrapped up in a dictatorship" is not a shot at both organization? All I can say is may your children never follow you in ministry.

Mat


Mat, the comment you reference was in regard to the succession of leadership in both organizations. Both seemed to be "kept in the family," which I jokingly referenced as a dictatorship. That ain't no pot shot, it's a fact.
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Searching back through your diatribe, I couldn't find any such encouraging, uplifting edifying posts that you have ever posted. You are a thug. I called you a name because your behavior is that of a self righteous thug.


I have to stand in defense of OTCP's position. I do not know him personally and have no idea of his identity. I do find it encouraging and edifying when someone will stand up and identify error when it creeps into the body of Christ. Anyone who will make the effort OTCP does to bring spiritual healing to what is a spiritual cancer in the body of Chirst has my complete support. The church today, particularly Pentecostals and Charismatics, are the most gullible, easily mislead and impacted by foolishness, of all in church history.


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wayne wrote:
I grew up in a COG church that was a lot like the COGMA and I have to be very candid here, I was miserable. As a kid, I had made up my mind that I would rather be a sinner than deal with this "holiness" behavior.

Where does this teaching, style, behavior come from?


I too was raised in that same atmosphere and never was ashamed or dismayed at the holiness stand of those saints of God. The tragedy is that the COG has long since defaulted regarding sanctification in a practical sense. I still believe the Word of God.


Hebrews 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: . . ."

To choose to stand against holiness and sanctification is to choose sin over salvation.


I am glad you responded the way you did. I am in no way knocking holiness. I hated the hardness, the backbiting, the gossiping, the glares, the whispers, the fighting. the all night services where people shouted, fell out, spoke in tongues, testified of how God had delivered them and then cussed someone out on the street right in front of the church.

Please help me understand how that goes with holiness?
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wayne wrote:
I grew up in a COG church that was a lot like the COGMA and I have to be very candid here, I was miserable. As a kid, I had made up my mind that I would rather be a sinner than deal with this "holiness" behavior.

Where does this teaching, style, behavior come from?


Bro, you live in Kentucky, and you don't know where it comes from?


Point taken. So this truly is a regional thing and not a biblical thing?
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wayne wrote:
DrDuck wrote:
wayne wrote:
I grew up in a COG church that was a lot like the COGMA and I have to be very candid here, I was miserable. As a kid, I had made up my mind that I would rather be a sinner than deal with this "holiness" behavior.

Where does this teaching, style, behavior come from?


I too was raised in that same atmosphere and never was ashamed or dismayed at the holiness stand of those saints of God. The tragedy is that the COG has long since defaulted regarding sanctification in a practical sense. I still believe the Word of God.


Hebrews 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: . . ."

To choose to stand against holiness and sanctification is to choose sin over salvation.


I am glad you responded the way you did. I am in no way knocking holiness. I hated the hardness, the backbiting, the gossiping, the glares, the whispers, the fighting. the all night services where people shouted, fell out, spoke in tongues, testified of how God had delivered them and then cussed someone out on the street right in front of the church.

Please help me understand how that goes with holiness?


I agree, what you describe is not holiness. But that is not the holiness I saw growing up. I saw people who simply were not willing to take the chance that they would not be found pleasing to God. No sacrifice and no amount of leaving off whatever might displease the Lord was too much. Whether something was wrong was not the primary issue. Whether one was willing to take the chance of offending God, that was the question.
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DrDuck wrote:
wayne wrote:
DrDuck wrote:
wayne wrote:
I grew up in a COG church that was a lot like the COGMA and I have to be very candid here, I was miserable. As a kid, I had made up my mind that I would rather be a sinner than deal with this "holiness" behavior.

Where does this teaching, style, behavior come from?


I too was raised in that same atmosphere and never was ashamed or dismayed at the holiness stand of those saints of God. The tragedy is that the COG has long since defaulted regarding sanctification in a practical sense. I still believe the Word of God.


Hebrews 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: . . ."

To choose to stand against holiness and sanctification is to choose sin over salvation.


I am glad you responded the way you did. I am in no way knocking holiness. I hated the hardness, the backbiting, the gossiping, the glares, the whispers, the fighting. the all night services where people shouted, fell out, spoke in tongues, testified of how God had delivered them and then cussed someone out on the street right in front of the church.

Please help me understand how that goes with holiness?


I agree, what you describe is not holiness. But that is not the holiness I saw growing up. I saw people who simply were not willing to take the chance that they would not be found pleasing to God. No sacrifice and no amount of leaving off whatever might displease the Lord was too much. Whether something was wrong was not the primary issue. Whether one was willing to take the chance of offending God, that was the question.


Holiness comes form the heart, if the heart is clean everything else will be. When I see people dressed "holiness" and then their words and/or actions do not match what they are trying to convey - that really bothers me.
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Post Re: OTCP Old Time Country Preacher
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Searching back through your diatribe, I couldn't find any such encouraging, uplifting edifying posts that you have ever posted. You are a thug. I called you a name because your behavior is that of a self righteous thug.


Jimmie, from the day you registered on acts you commenced wranglin with the old timer. Still love ya, bro. Ya made me laugh with the thug comment.
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