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 The gift of Interpretation |
Ernie Long |
Have you found that when people give an interpretation it is filter through their thoughts, feelings, and attitude? In other words their personality?
Is an interpretation received better from someone if they are liked and respected in the church over someone who seems to have a chip on their shoulder or a has a "better way" of doing what goes on in the church? |
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Quiet Wyatt |
| I can't see how any ministry or expression of spiritual gifts can ever completely avoid the filter of one's own personality. |
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3/7/16 3:26 pm
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therealist |
| I've been in countless services where an interpretation was given out and in about 90% of these instances, the "interpreter" speaks in Olde English or some type of KJV vernacular. Can anyone explain this? Is this really how the Holy Spirit speaks, with all the "Thees", "Thys" and "Thus saith The Lords"? |
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3/15/16 10:44 am
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UncleJD |
| therealist wrote: | | I've been in countless services where an interpretation was given out and in about 90% of these instances, the "interpreter" speaks in Olde English or some type of KJV vernacular. Can anyone explain this? Is this really how the Holy Spirit speaks, with all the "Thees", "Thys" and "Thus saith The Lords"? |
Better than "Yo! sup my peeps?" |
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3/15/16 10:47 am
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Quiet Wyatt |
| therealist wrote: | | I've been in countless services where an interpretation was given out and in about 90% of these instances, the "interpreter" speaks in Olde English or some type of KJV vernacular. Can anyone explain this? Is this really how the Holy Spirit speaks, with all the "Thees", "Thys" and "Thus saith The Lords"? |
That most likely simply reveals how the speaker believes God would speak. If the KJV has been the translation they adhere to and are most familiar with, they probably feel strongly that that is the way God talks. |
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3/15/16 10:49 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| UncleJD wrote: | | therealist wrote: | | I've been in countless services where an interpretation was given out and in about 90% of these instances, the "interpreter" speaks in Olde English or some type of KJV vernacular. Can anyone explain this? Is this really how the Holy Spirit speaks, with all the "Thees", "Thys" and "Thus saith The Lords"? |
Better than "Yo! sup my peeps?" |
Can ya just imagine if at the General Assembly this year, cause its bein held in country music city USA, if a interpretation come forth with a Tennessee country twang:
Yall better listen up here, yall better obey ole Brother AJT in everthang an all, an all yall better dippin at ole Irish Rose snuff. An at aint all, ever single one a yall better lay down em ole NIV Bibles yall been usin an hang with the good Book. Ifn it aint King James it aint the Bible. |
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3/15/16 12:26 pm
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| therealist wrote: | | I've been in countless services where an interpretation was given out and in about 90% of these instances, the "interpreter" speaks in Olde English or some type of KJV vernacular. Can anyone explain this? Is this really how the Holy Spirit speaks, with all the "Thees", "Thys" and "Thus saith The Lords"? |
That would be Early Modern English. You'd have as good a chance of understanding Icelandic as you would understanding Old English.
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3/15/16 12:33 pm
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bonnie knox |
Nope that weren't what I imagined. I'm thankin it'll go more like is right chere:
Yea, the Lord saith unto thee, thy carbeurator in thine old Ford is bein restored, thus saith the Lord.
Thine health is bein restored if thou wilst eat the thangs that's healthy for thee. Eat thy collards and eat thy molasses and they shall be health to thy navel.
Yea, the Lord careth for thee. He careth for thy livestock and thy hounddogs, an whatever ya put ya han to will prosper.
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | therealist wrote: | | I've been in countless services where an interpretation was given out and in about 90% of these instances, the "interpreter" speaks in Olde English or some type of KJV vernacular. Can anyone explain this? Is this really how the Holy Spirit speaks, with all the "Thees", "Thys" and "Thus saith The Lords"? |
Better than "Yo! sup my peeps?" |
Can ya just imagine if at the General Assembly this year, cause its bein held in country music city USA, if a interpretation come forth with a Tennessee country twang:
Yall better listen up here, yall better obey ole Brother AJT in everthang an all, an all yall better dippin at ole Irish Rose snuff. An at aint all, ever single one a yall better lay down em ole NIV Bibles yall been usin an hang with the good Book. Ifn it aint King James it aint the Bible. |
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Da Sheik |
| I know this thread has taken a comical slant, but I can honestly say I've heard precious few interpretations that I actually felt were truly Spirit-led. I believe when God speaks it is deeply impactful. Most of the "yay I say unto thee" stuff I have heard time and again was so generic that I can't even remember it. |
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3/15/16 1:07 pm
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bonnie knox |
When you say "really how the Holy Spirit speaks," wouldn't that mean it would be in a language we wouldn't understand anyway? That KJV English is just a convention.
| therealist wrote: | | I've been in countless services where an interpretation was given out and in about 90% of these instances, the "interpreter" speaks in Olde English or some type of KJV vernacular. Can anyone explain this? Is this really how the Holy Spirit speaks, with all the "Thees", "Thys" and "Thus saith The Lords"? |
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3/15/16 2:12 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Da Sheik wrote: | | I know this thread has taken a comical slant, but I can honestly say I've heard precious few interpretations that I actually felt were truly Spirit-led. I believe when God speaks it is deeply impactful. Most of the "yay I say unto thee" stuff I have heard time and again was so generic that I can't even remember it. |
I agree Shiek, but Miss Bonnie did got a blessin on ma coon hound, Blue. |
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3/15/16 2:51 pm
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Cojak |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: |
That most likely simply reveals how the speaker believes God would speak. If the KJV has been the translation they adhere to and are most familiar with, they probably feel strongly that that is the way God talks. |
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| Da Sheik wrote: | | I know this thread has taken a comical slant, but I can honestly say I've heard precious few interpretations that I actually felt were truly Spirit-led. I believe when God speaks it is deeply impactful. Most of the "yay I say unto thee" stuff I have heard time and again was so generic that I can't even remember it. |
True, and by honest well meaning folk, many times. 
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Da Sheik |
| Cojak wrote: | | True, and by honest well meaning folk, many times. |
Agreed. I think a lot of it is "learned". They've seen it done so many times that they try to emulate what they think an interpretation is supposed to be. |
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3/16/16 7:07 pm
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brotherjames |
First of all it is the supernatural gift of Interpretation of tongues (unknown) and what follows is my small writings about my understanding of this misunderstood gift. Notice what I mention here about how the Spirit uses us and how the gift is subject to our vernacular or even learned vernacular (KJV).
(3) THE GIFT OF INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES -
This SUPERNATURAL gift goes hand in hand and is of course dependent upon the Gift of Tongues. This gift is manifested following a SUPERNATURAL utterance in other tongues, generally in a public gathering. It is a SUPERNATURAL interpretation of the divine words previously uttered. It should be noted that an interpretation is different than that of a translation.
A translation is an exact word for word rendition of another language. An interpretation is not a word for word rendition, but it is an explanation or representation of the previously uttered language. An interpretation will sound like the individual being used, that is the individual's vernacular will often be fully intact throughout the interpretation. So, if an individual uses incorrect grammar (ain't, etc.) it follows that the interpretation may have these errors or slang in it. It also is common for the gift of tongues to be of one length while the interpretation may be of a shorter or longer length. This is because the interpretation is not being translated word for word, it is being put forth as an impression or representation of what the divine has spoken in other tongues.
Without the interpretation of the tongues no benefit will be derived by the gathered believers. When tongues are interpreted it may be considered as the equivalent to prophecy. (1 Cor. 14:5) We are instructed to pray that we would interpret. Especially when on your own in prayer, elsewise our understanding is unfruitful. (1 Cor.14:13-16) In public gatherings, the Word says, "Thereby is the secret of men's heart laid bare before them" (1 Cor.14:25) and they will fall on their faces and worship God.(see John 16:7-15) One clarification on the point of edification could be made. Webster defines the word edify as to improve, instruct, teach or to build up mentally or morally. I would add the word enlighten. We have been taught, even in Full Gospel circles, that the only way the H.S. speaks is by way of encouragement, a pat on the back, to comfort or buildup. These are truths, however, we stop too soon. He is the comforter but He also reproves, rebukes, chastens, directs and exhorts us. Not every message may be a comfortable one to hear, although it will generally be as New Testament prophecy is to edify, comfort or exhort 1 Cor 14:3. Every gift, especially this one and prophecy MUST be done in LOVE!!! We, as individuals, are told to speak the truth in love (Eph.4:15), in no other way would the H.S. speak. |
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3/16/16 8:38 pm
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Carolyn Smith |
| brotherjames wrote: | First of all it is the supernatural gift of Interpretation of tongues (unknown) and what follows is my small writings about my understanding of this misunderstood gift. Notice what I mention here about how the Spirit uses us and how the gift is subject to our vernacular or even learned vernacular (KJV).
(3) THE GIFT OF INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES -
This SUPERNATURAL gift goes hand in hand and is of course dependent upon the Gift of Tongues. This gift is manifested following a SUPERNATURAL utterance in other tongues, generally in a public gathering. It is a SUPERNATURAL interpretation of the divine words previously uttered. It should be noted that an interpretation is different than that of a translation.
A translation is an exact word for word rendition of another language. An interpretation is not a word for word rendition, but it is an explanation or representation of the previously uttered language. An interpretation will sound like the individual being used, that is the individual's vernacular will often be fully intact throughout the interpretation. So, if an individual uses incorrect grammar (ain't, etc.) it follows that the interpretation may have these errors or slang in it. It also is common for the gift of tongues to be of one length while the interpretation may be of a shorter or longer length. This is because the interpretation is not being translated word for word, it is being put forth as an impression or representation of what the divine has spoken in other tongues.
Without the interpretation of the tongues no benefit will be derived by the gathered believers. When tongues are interpreted it may be considered as the equivalent to prophecy. (1 Cor. 14:5) We are instructed to pray that we would interpret. Especially when on your own in prayer, elsewise our understanding is unfruitful. (1 Cor.14:13-16) In public gatherings, the Word says, "Thereby is the secret of men's heart laid bare before them" (1 Cor.14:25) and they will fall on their faces and worship God.(see John 16:7-15) One clarification on the point of edification could be made. Webster defines the word edify as to improve, instruct, teach or to build up mentally or morally. I would add the word enlighten. We have been taught, even in Full Gospel circles, that the only way the H.S. speaks is by way of encouragement, a pat on the back, to comfort or buildup. These are truths, however, we stop too soon. He is the comforter but He also reproves, rebukes, chastens, directs and exhorts us. Not every message may be a comfortable one to hear, although it will generally be as New Testament prophecy is to edify, comfort or exhort 1 Cor 14:3. Every gift, especially this one and prophecy MUST be done in LOVE!!! We, as individuals, are told to speak the truth in love (Eph.4:15), in no other way would the H.S. speak. |
Very well said!
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