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Why Trump's "Register Muslims" program would be dangerous to Christians

 
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Post Why Trump's "Register Muslims" program would be dangerous to Christians doyle
So far, it seems Trump is the only candidate who would be strong against the overwhelming flood of illegal immigration. Others talk about it but I think Trump would do something about it.

If Trump does not get the Republican nomination, it will be because of his vicious and personalized comments about other Republicans. He is killing his opportunity with his own mouth. Take someone to task because of their policies? Absolutely. Rip them to shreds in personal attacks? No way acceptable.

Trump's verbalized plan to "register" all Muslims, is incredibly dangerous to Christians. Also, except in extreme situations, his plan to close Mosques, is dangerous to Christian churches too.

Once that religious "registration" process starts, an increasingly secular society will spread it to those of all faiths including Christians. Close down Mosques because of the hate preached in some, and churches where the people disagree with gay marriage or other things society-at-large calls hate speech, can be closed down too.

One reason the vile Westboro Baptist Church is still open, is because they do have the right under our Constitution to hate speech. To my knowledge, they have not killed anyone. I believe their hatred has done a lot of damage to Christianity because many people, especially those who are not involved in church, relate some of their speech with the overall word "church."

Yes, some Mosques are havens for potential terrorists and recruitment for such activities. That cannot go un-monitored. It is illegal, even in church, to encourage harming or killing others. Such individual incidents must be
handled.

However, putting all Muslims, including those who have not committed any crimes, on a registration list? No.

That is my opinion. What's yours?

Doyle
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So far, it seems Trump is the only candidate who would be strong against the overwhelming flood of illegal immigration. Others talk about it but I think Trump would do something about it.


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Okay, now that I've read the rest of your post, yes, I agree that Trump's idea is bad. It's the kind of idea you would expect to come from a liberal. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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Very few grasp the importance of absolute positions on freedoms and rights. If Trump means this (there's some question as to whether he meant all Muslims, or just Muslims among incoming refugees or immigrants) then he doesn't understand that the same state power necessary to enforce that, and the same framework used to legally justify it, can then be turned on Christians.

The folks protesting at college campuses, demanding that certain types of speech be prohibited, do not understand that the same state power necessary to enforce that, and the same framework used to legally justify it, can be easily turned on speech they favor.

These ideas and any ensuing legal justification should be immediately rejected on 4th and 14th (Trump) or 1st (college kids) Amendment grounds, but it seems like anything can happen these days.
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HOWEVER: Keeping track of refugees is not illegal nor wrong. YOU have an address, EACH of us can be found unless we are street people.

When you accept a refugee into this country you are not giving them citizenship, ARE YOU? So naturally there should be a way to locate each one.

How is that WRONG?

Do not take me wrong, we all seem to fuss about the illegals from Mexico and South America, and want to know where they are, but cannot do it because they are ILLEGAL. Your government can find you, why should they not be able to find someone we are feeding and supporting?

Amazing they can track your steak back to the cow and ranch it came from so you will know where the 'Mad Cow Disease' comes from, there might be a common thread there.

I am just pointing we already have LISTS!
I am far from a TRUMP supporter, but I think he was speaking mostly about the refugees we are going to accept! Embarassed
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"I didn't suggest a database-a reporter did. We must defeat Islamic terrorism & have surveillance, including a watch list, to protect America"

Trump should have been able to see the game the reporter was playing and shut it down, but it does seem clear he wasn't suggesting a registry for Muslims.
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Dave Dorsey wrote:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
"I didn't suggest a database-a reporter did. We must defeat Islamic terrorism & have surveillance, including a watch list, to protect America"

Trump should have been able to see the game the reporter was playing and shut it down, but it does seem clear he wasn't suggesting a registry for Muslims.



right Dave , I have already researched it and your exactly right. Even if he did say something like this , it would fall into the same category as " We'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it. " Confused
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Trump never said it. The media said it but he did not! All of this was from a reporter who suggested it. Trump kept talking about building a wall at the border and security.
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