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Dr. Jeffress endorsed Trump a few min. ago in Dallas |
John Jett |
Trump introduced him and said that he loves him. He said that he (Jeffers) had said that he's not perfect (Trump), but he's who we need to "make America great again". Jeffers merely walked up and hugged Trump and whispered something in his ear and waved at everyone. I was a little shocked to see Dr. Jeffers come out in support of Trump. I have a great deal of respect for Jeffers and this doesn't change that, but I really think the evangelical church is jumping into this feet first and I hope it works out ok.
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Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4955 9/14/15 7:26 pm
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The last thing I remember seeing about Dr. Jeffress was when he got beside himself trying to defend the Duggars while Dr. Keith Ablow ate Jeffress' lunch. (Of course that was before Josh was found to have cheated on his wife. If you go back and look at the clip now, Jeffress looks even more foolish.)
And the follow up to what Eddie posted is that when Mitt Romney won the Primary, Dr. Jeffress backpedaled and endorsed Romney anyway. Of course, he claimed he had never said that Christians shouldn't vote for Romney.
http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/04/18/pastor-robert-jeffress-i-endorse-romney-in-spite-of-his-mormon-faith/
You know what they say, "Politics makes strange bedfellows."
Of course, this might be more like birds of a feather. Probably neither Trump nor Jeffress is ever wrong even when they flipflop. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 9/14/15 9:18 pm
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Cojak |
Eddie Robbins wrote: | http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frenchrevolution/2011/10/08/robert-jeffresss-bizarre-and-unbiblical-beliefs/ |
Thanks for posting, this attitude is one reason we have had 7 years of Obama, in my opinion.
IS this Dr. Jeffers the same as Jeffress? _________________ Some facts but mostly just my opinion!
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 9/14/15 9:22 pm
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All I can say is ... "This absolutely blows my mind!"
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Friendly Face Posts: 300 9/14/15 9:26 pm
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bonnie knox |
Cojak wrote: | Eddie Robbins wrote: | http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frenchrevolution/2011/10/08/robert-jeffresss-bizarre-and-unbiblical-beliefs/ |
Thanks for posting, this attitude is one reason we have had 7 years of Obama, in my opinion.
IS this Dr. Jeffers the same as Jeffress? |
Yes, the pastor of First Baptist in Dallas. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 9/14/15 9:33 pm
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This is from Jeffress via FOX |
Cojak |
I read the article, and it is pretty good, but I still cannot reconcile his view on Romney, who lost (IMHO) because of people like Jeffress. But this is still a good article:
FOX OPINION by Jeffress...
New York Times columnist Frank Bruni is scratching his head over Donald Trump�s growing popularity with Evangelical Christians�and for good reason. How does one explain that a candidate like The Donald who has been married three times, runs casinos, discounts the need for asking God�s forgiveness, and has difficulty citing one verse of the Bible is trouncing card-carrying evangelical candidates like Huckabee, Cruz, and others too far down the list to warrant mention?
In a recent New York Times op-ed, Bruni claims that Evangelicals� support of Trump demonstrates �how selective and incoherent the religiosity of evangelicals are.� Translation: Evangelical Christians are either too ignorant to know who Trump really is or too hypocritical to care. However, rather than �ignorant� and �hypocritical,� I believe there are two other words that explain why so many evangelicals are registering their support for Trump: Barack Obama.
There is a palpable feeling among many Christians (as well as non-Christians) that our nation has been in a downward death spiral during the last seven years of President Obama�s administration.
Some feel that the 2016 election may be the last opportunity to reverse that trend. Rightly or wrongly there is a perception that other candidates are incapable of changing the status quo�which Ronald Reagan famously said is Latin for �the mess we�re in.� Trump, they believe, is the only candidate with the leadership skills necessary to lead us out of that mess.
Evangelicals no longer require their president to be one of them, they just want a president who doesn't hate them.
Contrary to Bruni�s assertion, evangelicals are not ignorant of the inconsistencies between some of Trump�s unorthodox beliefs/behavior and the Christian faith.
No Christians I know who are supporting Trump are under the illusion that The Donald is a seasoned student of Scripture. In fact, they chuckled several weeks ago when Trump refused to cite a single verse from the Book he had spent the week saying he �loved.� They get the joke . . . and they don�t care.
Overlooking Trump�s spiritual shortcomings doesn�t make Evangelicals hypocrites as Bruni charges, but realists.
In a perfect world, Evangelicals would love a truly born-again candidate who possesses both a maturity of faith and all the requisite leadership skills necessary to solve the nation�s ills. But as they survey the landscape of seventeen possibilities, a majority of evangelicals cannot find one candidate whom they believe possesses both attributes.
Think of it this way. If you were in a jetliner nose-diving toward the ground because the crew was incapacitated and you had only two choices of whom to hand over the controls, whom would you select: a novice pilot who had only flown a single-engine propeller plane several times or a pastor? You�d probably ask the beginner pilot to use his acquired skills to fly the plane and ask the pastor to pray.
As Evangelicals see America careening downward toward a devastating crash, they are willing to bifurcate leadership responsibilities for the well-being of our country.
They are looking to the Church to lead our nation to the spiritual renewal that we so desperately need, but a growing number are searching for a president who has both the leadership skills and tenacity to solve our country�s practical problems such as the immigration dilemma and our economic stagnation.
No Evangelical I know is expecting Trump to lead our nation in a spiritual revival. But seven years of Barack Obama have drastically lowered the threshold of spiritual expectations Evangelicals have of their president. No longer do they require their president to be one of them. Evangelicals will settle for someone who doesn�t HATE them like the current occupant of the Oval Office appears to.
While the national polls indicate Trump is the preferred candidate of evangelicals in the pew, it should be noted that he is not resonating with evangelical leaders.
A recent survey by World Magazine of 103 Evangelical leaders revealed that only three of those leaders selected Trump as their first choice for president�tying Hillary Clinton.
The Donald should not be discouraged by those numbers. There is often a disconnect between pastors in the pulpit and people in the pews (where the votes are).
Evangelical leaders have a dismal record for choosing a president. In January of 2012, a group of evangelical leaders who were searching for the �anybody-but-Romney� alternative settled on Rick Santorum as their choice.
Although Santorum went on to win the Iowa caucus in February, he dropped out of the race several months later.
Will Trump�s popularity with Evangelicals continue? The real test will come when some of the other Evangelical-friendly candidates inevitably begin dropping out of the race. That�s when the law of mathematics takes over. Will their supporters coalesce around another traditional Evangelical candidate, or will they throw up their hands in frustration and run to Trump?
I say this as reverently as possible: only God knows what will happen. But in the meantime, it certainly will be fascinating and fun to watch.
Dr. Robert Jeffress is pastor of the 12,000-member First Baptist Church in Dallas and also is a Fox News Contributor. His daily radio program is heard on 800 stations nationwide and his weekly television program is seen on more than 11,000 stations and cable systems in 195 countries.
It is too long for a post, but it does make sense. I still am upset with his loud claims against Mitt. _________________ Some facts but mostly just my opinion!
jacsher@aol.com
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 9/14/15 9:40 pm
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Quote: | but a growing number are searching for a president who has both the leadership skills and tenacity to solve our country�s practical problems such as the immigration dilemma and our economic stagnation |
And so they choose Trump???? Bwahahahahahahhahahhahhhah |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 9/14/15 9:57 pm
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John Jett |
oops, sorry for the misspelling, I was being lazy I guess.
Mitt Romney lost because he was a big government moderate trying to convince us that he was against social medicine when he proved he was for it just a few years prior. He was a very bad idea and we got exactly what we deserved for nominating him. I felt dirty when I voted for him and I don't know ANYONE who was excited about him in the least. He was the evil of two lessers if I've ever known one. If we nominate Bush, Rubio, Christie or any of those other bums, we'll get the same thing. I don't care for a lot of what I hear from Trump, but I'm done with politics as usual and I think that is the prevailing wind for now.
I still like listening to Dr. Jeffress much more than 90% of anyone else on TV. |
Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4955 9/15/15 12:44 am
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It keeps the ratings up for Wednesday night. _________________ Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going today! |
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